On 10/11/2013 11:26 PM, Shay wrote:
> On 10/11/2013 09:45 PM, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>
>>
>> Yeah, I have absolutely no bloody patience with people that think fixing
>> this idiot mess is a bad idea,
>
> The same way we fixed the idiot messes in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Viet
> Nam? Have we since tuned up our magic wand?
>
Yeah, because that is **exactly** the same thing. And people claim I am 
bad at analogies sometimes...

>> or that someone more people will die, by
>> making sure more people don't get to the point they are dying in the
>> damn first place..
>
> I have absolutely no bloody patience for people who go on for paragraphs
> about preventive vs. trauma care while obviously having no idea what
> trauma care is.
>
> Too bad that guy's head went through a windshield. Maybe if we'd given
> him some antibiotics ...
>
WTF? No, its - lets ship this guy 50 miles to another hospital, because 
we are too busy given 10 idiots, who should have gone to a regular 
doctor, but couldn't, antibiotics, for shit that could have been treated 
with a damn bandaid three weeks earlier. But, yeah, I get that you have 
no damn clue what the problems really are, or how they got to be such a 
damn mess in the first place. Worse, you think that actually making sure 
people get the bandaid - note, not forcing doctors to hand out bandaids, 
but just making f-ing sure they can get to a primary doctor, for one, is 
"forcing" those non-specialist, non-trauma care, non-emergency room, 
doctors to do things, while somehow taking away the ability of the ones 
that "are" in those emergency care locations to deal with the real 
trauma cases, which they can't right now, because they are too busy 
dealing with crap that should have never gotten to them in the first place.

How does that make any damn sense? Next you will be telling me that 
hiring more school nurses will "take away necessary staff from, and 
further overload emergency responders, by **forcing** them to work in 
schools, instead of driving ambulances." It makes about as much damn 
sense as claiming that trauma care professionals are going to be somehow 
"forced" to hand out antibiotics to people who can, with actual fraking 
health care coverage, now see regular doctors.

Now, **if** you are claiming that there might be an increase in idiots 
showing up in places they shouldn't, **instead of** going to primary 
care physicians, then you would have a point. Not much of one though, 
since ***they are already doing that, because its the only care, without 
insurance, they can get right now***.

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