On 8/31/2013 10:50 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 18:19:45 +0100, Orchid Win7 v1 wrote:
>
>> What I *do* have an issue with is MS deciding that *I* can't get stuff
>> done with my own PC because "most" end-users don't need that feature.
>
> Such as?
>
> Jim
>
Hmm. How about - "Without hunting down some third party tool to do it."? 
Though, some things the OS just won't let you do at all. Like, well, 
nearly any tool used to test network issues is "throttled", as in, in 
this case, "strangled" by the "protections" added, to prevent certain 
types of packets, which "might" be from a virus/worm/botnet. I am sure 
you could, somehow, if you wanted to spend stupid amounts of time 
hunting for a solution, find a way to turn that off, maybe...

Or, there is the real good one, like.. trying to install HP 
multi=function printer drivers, and finding that, and MS, their scanner, 
and even other virus scanners, will all argue, "Its somehow HPs fault, 
not us!", the scanner software itself won't install properly, since it 
uses some funcky packet talk, even over USB, which "modern" virus 
scanners, and firewalls, etc. including the stuff made by MS, all 
trigger on, and cause to fail. For some damn reason, apparently, not 
having the virus scanner, etc. "on" at the time you install this may fix 
it, maybe, if you are lucky, but.. you can't fix the existing install, 
no matter what you do, short of pulling the plug on the whole printer 
driver suite, and, maybe, again, reinstalling, with your PC wide open to 
the very attacks that you are supposed to use the stuff to stop.

So, yeah, I do blame HP for thinking this idiocy was a good idea (I 
think what they did was run the same protocol via USB as they do over 
the network, somehow, so it fucks up both ways, even with a direct 
connection, but still.. Why the hell should it even happen at all, never 
mind be, literally, unrepairable?

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