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From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 26 Aug 2013 17:57:50
Message: <521bcf5e$1@news.povray.org>
On 8/26/2013 9:50 AM, Warp wrote:
> This is a physical impossibility. You just can't make the entire scientific
> community believe in the same thing that's contrary to facts. Said
> community consists of thousands and thousans of people from different
> countries and cultures. Most of them do it because of personal interest
> and passion, and nothing would be more rewarding then making a new
> discovery or coming up with a valid objection to a claim. There's just no
> way to control all the scientists of the entire world and make them keep
> quiet about problems in current scientific theories and not publish those
> objections.
>
Of course, this is exactly what they often claim, that "their" 
scientists, who never seem to actually, you know, do research, instead 
of just comment on their misreading of everyone else's, are the ones 
"speaking out" against the vast conspiracy that all the other ones (who 
outnumber them like 100:1) are "in on".

They are, often, also believers in the "Main Stream Media", which is 
just incompetent and unwilling to check their facts, but fans of "FOX", 
which has actually admitted to paying people to make shit up, and only 
put out biased news, according to what their companies CEO wants them to 
say (which just happens, right now, to coincide heavily with the 
pro-corporation, anti-regulation, small government, pseudo-libertarian, 
"Tea Party"...), as well as the truly loony one, which is that energy 
companies, which, just in the last few decades have a) sat in rooms to 
fix oil prices, while claiming that its pure coincidence they all meet 
together, not intentional price fixing, didn't so much as speak up 
about, and probably just figured on waiting to see what happened, during 
the Enron, "Gosh, we have an electricity shortage, so lets kill people 
by shutting down their 'heating/air conditioning/who the fuck knows what 
else', during rolling blackouts, and have shown, twice that they can't 
prevent spills, or clean them up, or even stop their pipelines from 
leaking. Oh, no, those people we are supposed to believe, but not the 
"scientific community", which is somehow looking to make "big money" by 
promoting alternatives, thanks to global warming.

Its never entirely clear how *all* of those people, never mind any but 
perhaps a small fraction, are supposed to get money from doing this, 
but.. hell, its how their side does things, so, I am guessing that at 
least some of the idiots on the denialism side actually believe its not 
happening, and that everyone else, just like them, pays people with 
degrees to make shit up, and lie, to promote some sort of business 
interests, what ever the hell those might be. Looks at in that sense, 
presuming they truly believe someone, some place, is making money off 
it, and that all the experts on their side are getting kickbacks, just 
like they do for their "own" experts.. Its perfectly logical. Its should 
also imho, be a sign that every damn one of them needs to be 
investigated for ethics violations, and their paid shills, for some sort 
of clear conflict of interest issues (not that you could, since they 
would just admit they where paid to make shit up, so.. no conflict, then 
accuse everyone else of doing the same thing).


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