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From: Warp
Date: 26 Aug 2013 12:50:07
Message: <521b873e@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott <kag### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> The problem here is that there "are" now paid shills (lots and lots more 
> of them than back when the people paying them thought science would 
> vindicate their ideas, not disembowel them), like Cato, and those 
> working for certain corporations/interests, who do both cherry pick 
> their data, and lie, to promote the positions they are *paid* to. 

There's a good reason why science does not rely on individual scientists
and individual experiments, but everything must be peer-reviewed and
tested again and again by numerous independent parties (preferably from
different countries and cultures) before such studies are even considered.

Creationists (as well as many other pseudoscientists) promote the notion
that the entire scientific community is in a huge conspiracy to endorse
certain views. Naturally they never go to specifics (because those could
be easily verified), but the way they talk it sounds like they think that
"science" consists of a secret core group of people who decide what the
current "scientific truth" is, and then everyone else just abides by their
rulings.

This is a physical impossibility. You just can't make the entire scientific
community believe in the same thing that's contrary to facts. Said
community consists of thousands and thousans of people from different
countries and cultures. Most of them do it because of personal interest
and passion, and nothing would be more rewarding then making a new
discovery or coming up with a valid objection to a claim. There's just no
way to control all the scientists of the entire world and make them keep
quiet about problems in current scientific theories and not publish those
objections.

For example, let's assume that there are indeed big problems with
radioactive dating methods. Why would, for example, scientists from
India or Japan keep quiet about them, and moreover perpetuate the alleged
lies? What possible motivation could there be (especially since there is
a lot more motivation to raise objections when they are found)?

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                                                          - Warp


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