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29 Jul 2024 00:28:26 EDT (-0400)
  Re: If you like rum  
From: Warp
Date: 23 Jun 2013 08:23:35
Message: <51c6e8c7@news.povray.org>
andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> This is my last time trying to explain it friendly: it is not a false 
> dichotomy and your arguments are bullshit.

> For most people alcohol slowly impairs their judgement, when they start 
> drinking it becomes harder to not take the next one. So it is not a 
> dichotomy between none and too much but, excuse the phrase, a slippery 
> slope. And one whose slipperyness suffers from positive feedback. I am 
> not saying that everybody all the time gets drunk whenever they take one 
> beer. Just that for most people there are certain circumstances where 
> they take one too many. Even if they knew that they should not have done 
> that when they still had a few less.

You say it's not a false dichotomy, yet you keep repeating the false
dichotomy over and over.

The argument you are preseting is: "Many people choose to avoid alcohol
completely because most people can't control their drinking." In other
words, they seem to think that there are only two options: Either you
avoid alcohol completely, or you risk going out of control.

However, there is a third option, and one that's practiced by millions
of people worldwide (especially in those cultures where wine is a very
common meal drink): Just drink a very small amount of it, and that's it.
It doesn't even have to have any kind of effect on your senses.

Many people just appreciate the taste of fine wine or other beverages,
and they do not feel any temptation to drink it in excess. And small
amounts of alcohol from time to time has actually been shown to have
health benefits (not to talk about the beneficial nutrients found in
drinks like red wine, which contain things like antioxidants and
flavonoids.)

I find your argument to be quite insulting to people who appreciate
these beverages yet never drink it to an excess. You are, when we go
to the bottom of it, calling them drunkards.

If anything, I call that bullshit.

As said, if you don't want to drink any alcohol, that's completely fine.
But don't go around making bullshit claims about people who are not like
you.

(And I'm not saying this because I drink regularly, because I don't.
In my case it's a question of taste, not a question of principles or
unfounded fear. But I'm not a 100% absolutist either. And I most certainly
don't go around misrepresenting the issue.)

> You started this whole issue by stating 
> it is a logical discussion and everybody with an opinion different from 
> yours is wrong.

Ah, there we go putting words in other people's mouths. Of course.
What a mature conversational tactic.

"You disagree with me, therefore you think that everybody with an opinion
different from yours is wrong."

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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