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28 Jul 2024 20:23:45 EDT (-0400)
  Re: Any Ideas  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 19 Feb 2013 22:16:13
Message: <51243ffd$1@news.povray.org>
On 2/19/2013 7:02 PM, H. Karsten wrote:
> Any ideas to that?
>
Uh.. Such a system is not possible, for multiple reasons:

1. No way to isolate it. Basically, unless the machine if the only thing 
in its own universe (and we can't say for sure even this would help), 
quantum mechanics, no matter how well you isolate the system, will 
either introduce energy to it, where it doesn't help, of "rob" the 
system of energy, which it needs.

2. To move something you need to expend energy. So, every time your 
"matter" hits, it loses some of the energy. In this particular context, 
it means that the "state" of the matter needs to be taken into account, 
with respect to if the conductor has anything to move, and how far it 
moves. It doesn't matter what sort of "super conductor" you might apply, 
the energy being used has the same "potential" as whatever you get from 
the converter, but its not the same identical electrons, etc. Rather, 
you take in the matter, convert it to electrical current, which 
"jostles" an electron out of place, with jostles another, etc, up the 
chain, until the last one in the chain gets "pushed", into what ever the 
energy to matter converter thing does. Depending on distance, even in a 
perfect conductor (again, not possible), there are hundreds, to 
thousands, or interactions, any one of which, due to quantum effects, 
simply won't "conduct" that specific electron in the right direction, or 
at all.

Basically, every stage in the system either needs external energy, or, 
even if "perfect", in the closest sense we can, but the laws of our 
universe, make such a thing, will "expend" some tiny bit more energy, 
but simple quantum instabilities, than the prior stage had it in to 
start with.

So.. Its kind of a nonsense question, since the answer is, "What ever 
extra energy was already there, but, unless this thing is on a planet, 
and "gravity" is somehow involved, its going to slow down, and, at some 
point, just stop.


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