On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 21:11:39 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>> We fought a war with Britain over it. ;)
>>
> Quite right too..
> 
> BTW who won?

I guess that's a matter of perspective. ;)

>>>>> Tell that to the marines. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> ???  I don't understand.
>>>>
> It means that I doubt the veracity of your statement. :-P

Ah, I see. :)

>> I live in Utah, and with luck, we'll be moving to a saner place.  If
>> supporting a minority party in an ultra-conservative state doesn't
>> disillusion me, moving someplace more liberal isn't likely to either.
>> ;)
>>
> No, but old age can. :-)

I guess that's all relative.  I'm 42 this year.  :)

>> Hehehehehehe, yeah, I know.  If I were in the UK, I'd probably be
>> LibDem or Green leaning.  Though Clegg hasn't really impressed.
>>
>>
> He hasn't impressed his own party either.
> But then (here I go again) he is a politician.

That's certainly true (both things). :)

>>> Do I look that soft? ;-)
>>
>> I dunno, don't think I've ever seen a picture of you, come to think of
>> it.
>>
>>
> I am a bit camera shy.

So am I, I prefer being behind the camera.

>>>> That's a tough one.  On the one hand, yes - but it's more or less a
>>>> passive activity, like paying your phone bill.
>>>>
>>> Only if you don't have a good accountant.
>>
>> s/a good/an/
>>
> Sorry, I don't get that. :-(

Regex parsing.  I'm changing your statement from:

"Only if you don't have a good accountant."

to

"Only if you don't have an accountant."

:)

>> Wait, did I get the roles backwards?  I did, I meant it the other way
>> around.  The grunts don't make the decisions at the time, but one hopes
>> that they remember what it was to be a grunt when they become the one
>> in charge.
>>
> Probably one of the reasons that you had so many dissatisfied vets from
> Nam.

Very possibly.

>> I think that's the case here as well, but yeah, I know in the UK
>> there's a bit of a class division there as well.  Got a friend who was
>> in the upper of those ranks, and he can get quite annoying at times
>> when it comes to telling stories about the royals that he's interacted
>> with. <rolleyes>
>>
> If you want to get a dig in, call him Rupert. ;-)

Ooooh, I'll have to remember that. ;)

>> Some do, if they actually took experience away from the experience. 
>> But that's another point, too, that sending your own children into
>> battle is different than those of a stranger.
>>
> How many children of senators went to the Gulf or Afghanistan?

Not nearly enough.  A few, though.  ISTR that one of Biden's kids either 
served or is serving.

>>> Me too. Praise the Lord.
>>
>> Or the FSM. ;)
> 
> Lordy, that brings back memories.

Good ones? ;)

>> I wonder if you can view what's on thedailyshow.com - not sure if
>> there's a geographical restriction or not.
>>
>>
> Only clips, last time I looked.

They usually break the episode up into clips, even when they do 
interviews, often they're 2 and 3 parts (sometimes they're extended 
interviews).

>>> Good luck with it. (Maybe Andrew can give you some tips.) (Feck,
>>> that's cruel, sorry.)
>>
>> LOL - I spent the entire weekend prepping (even though it's not
>> scheduled yet), installing the product (I've installed the
>> predecessors), making notes, analysing what data I can get my hands on
>> (not much).
>>
> The way to go. :-D

Yep, preparation is important.  The interview in Portland I wasn't nearly 
well enough prepared for, it seems.  I know this company inside and out - 
since I worked there before. ;)  But I know there are people who have 
been there for decades who don't know as many people there as I do, and 
that could well work to my advantage.

>> I met the hiring manager before the position was opened, and that
>> helps, because I have an idea what to expect.  I'm very familiar with
>> the company and the product's predecessors, know lots of people
>> (including at least one person he reports to - the guy who introduced
>> us) at the company who know him - so I think my chances are good.  They
>> want a degree (and prefer an MBA for the role), but I think my
>> experience and skills stand a good chance of offsetting that as a hard
>> requirement (and often while those are listed as requirements, they're
>> not a hard requirement if someone with the right mix of skills and
>> experience comes along).
>>
> Right, often HR will put it in the job spec but the hiring boss just
> wants someone who can do the job of at least learn quickly.
> 
> BTW What has Business Administration got to do with technical roles?

It's product management, so it involves market analysis and understanding 
the revenue streams and such as well as the technical sides.

I've got a former coworker who's got the same title this position has, 
and he's only got a high school diploma and a similar career path to what 
I have (but without the IT background, he started in product support 
IIRC).  That gives me a fair amount of hope.  Going to try to catch up 
with him on Monday to get insight from him on how he got in where he is.

>>> I've downloaded it but I've not had time to sit down and listen to it.
>>> Maybe at the weekend.
>>
>> They seem to have become more comfortable as a team than in previous
>> series with Jack at the helm.
> 
> I thought that they had settles in fine, last season.

They had, but it's even better now. :)

>> Must remember to grab the new one tonight. :)
>>
> Good luck. I tried tonight (Wednesday) and it still hasn't been
> uploaded, here. :-(

I got it without any problems - I can send it if you like. :)

Jim

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