On 15-10-2012 14:40, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Looking good, I've been keeping an eye on this wip. I love the ships, have you
> been modelling them all yourself from scratch or adapting existing models?

The two ship in the foreground are originally commercial models, 
modelled by de Estepona (a Spanish modelling firm I believe) and sold in 
2002/2003 by Taschen as part of two 3D objects collections. For these 
collections the models were not always provided in their best/highest 
resolution, only for some.

However, I have completely overhauled the /Kyrenia/ ship (left) and 
added to it so that now the model is more mine than the original. I have 

lower resolution state. The dhow in the middle ground left is entirely 
my own modelling though, and still a work in progress.

>
> Is the texturing on the new ship just temporary? Looks like the direction is
> wrong for the masts. The skin tones on the guys looks a little odd - obviously
> skin is a very hard texture to get right, but even with a flat colour I'd have
> thought you could get it a little more realistic... if that is work yet to come,
> apologies!

Yes, the original texturing of the Coca shown here is frankly a shame 
and needs a serious overhaul with better image_maps and new uv mapping.
The skins depend first of all on the available image_maps of the 
original models: Poser 5 right, Poser 6 left. In addition, I have used a 
macro definition provided by Ive for a more realistic skin tone (not yet 
implemented for the Poser 6 figure by the way) and using additional 
skintones I found elsewhere. Not easy to get right however. So, for the 
Poser 5 figure, it is hard to get something better as the skin image_map 
is not too detailed. I probably could tune a bit more the skintone, but 
I am not sure.
Note that I use Poser 5 figures almost exclusively for background work 
and not for for the foreground like here. However, I had the figure 
readily posed and available so I did not look for another one. It is not 
too big a problem; maybe I shall put some more clothes on him as an 
alternative ;-)

>
> Also, I would expect some darkening of the shadow into the crevice under the
> cargo in the foreground... probably just a minor tweak to the radiosity
> settings...

Ah yes, you are right... Hmmm, that is something I have to look into 
indeed. Thanks for drawing my attention to this.

>
> Small criticisms really, this is very detailed work. :)

He he! Going forward in haste slowly (/festina lente/)  ;-)

Thomas

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