> andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> On 25-9-2012 22:18, Warp wrote:
>>> andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>>> Well, I know quite a few professional singers. And I am not talking
>>>> about pop musicians but trained, talented people. What you describe is
>>>> entirely possible without AutoTune, but not with people like madonna, no
>>>> matter what other qualities she has.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>>
>> because she started too late taking singing lessons and was too busy
>> with her career to spend enough time on it.
>
> Madonna made her first hit songs in the early 80's. Autotune was first
> released in 1997. I'm not entirely sure what you are talking about.
>

If you listen to her earlier balads ("Live to tell", for example), you 
can tell that when she's trying to sing "seriously" (as opposed to the 
"girly" stuff like "Material girl" or "Like a virgin") she sometimes 
misses notes and her voice cracks up.

Compare that to "Frozen", where you won't hear any of those mistakes.

I also think the absence of mistakes is the result of technology rather 
than singing lessons.
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