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  Re: Approval of vigilantism and murder  
From: andrel
Date: 11 Aug 2012 06:52:41
Message: <5026396C.5010507@gmail.com>
On 10-8-2012 22:15, Warp wrote:
> I stumbled across a news footage video that had by chance caught the
> murder (or attempted murder, I'm not completely sure) of a captured
> child kidnapper and possible rapist by the child's father. Some police
> officers were escorting the perpretrator in handcuffs, and the father
> was disguised in some kind of public telephone booth, from which he
> proceeded to shoot the perpeptrator with a gun. Clearly it was not
> something that was done in the heat of the moment, but something planned
> and premeditated.
>
> I made the error of reading some of the youtube comments. In the first
> several pages every single comment, every single one of them, praised
> that father's actions. Most called it rightful justice, some called him
> a hero. Not a single comment of disapproval.
>
> This is just crazy in my opinion. I see two major problems with this:
>
> 1) His son had been through a horrible experience that would probably
> haunt him the rest of his life. He was probably emotionally destroyed
> and in severe need of support. What does his father do? He risks everything
> and is ready to go to jail, possibly for life, away from his son. What
> possible good would that have done to anybody? Not only was his son
> experienced a really traumatic event, but now his father would put him
> through another, namely his own father going to jail rather than be at
> home supporting him?
>
> That man is not a hero. He is an idiot. I don't care how distressed and
> mad he was about what happened to his son, he is still an idiot. I have
> no sympathy for him. Making things potentially so much worse for his son
> after such an ordeal deserves no respect nor admiration.
>
> 2) People's basically unanimous approval of his actions are just
> preposterous. This was not self-defence, nor was it an overreaction done
> in the heat of the moment. It was premeditated, cold-blooded first-degree
> murder. The man had clearly prepared for the situation and planned his
> actions. Yet most people think that what he did was justified, and a good
> thing.
>
> I can't believe that in the modern society people are so eager to defend
> murder, vigilantism and taking matters to your own hands. Screw fair trials,
> screw basic human rights, screw law and order. Someone murdering someone
> else in revenge is ok according to these people.
>
> And no, I'm not exaggerating here. I commented on the video about this, and
> several people defended their position, and in fact emphasized it. Some
> even said that this kind of action should be legal.

Finally someone on the internet that is somewhat consistent. ;)
If it had been legal (or unpunishable) than the father would get away 
with it and your main argument is invalid.

There is still a chance that he will get away with is with a light 
sentence. You can (and any lawyer will) argue that the man was severely 
traumatized and therefore not (fully) responsible for his deeds. The 
fact that someone like that is likely a violent men with tunnel vision 
is not relevant for this case itself. In a sense we can be glad that it 
was just a kidnapper that was the victim and not a group of innocent 
immigrants/moviegoers/schoolchildren...

BTW what country did this happen in?

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Women are the canaries of science. When they are underrepresented
it is a strong indication that non-scientific factors play a role
and the concentration of incorruptible scientists is also too low


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