Orchid Win7 v1 escreveu:
>>>> ah, children from the 90's...
>>>
>>> I wish. :-P
>>
>> ok, old fart.
> 
> Thanks for making me feel better. :-P

I'm even older than you (not by much actually) but have a far better 
sense of humor.  Better now? :)

>>> Seriously. Visual Studio manages to be responsive enough, and not eat
>>> half my RAM. NetBeans can't. IMHO, that makes NetBeans inferior.
>>
>> Windows comes with the .NET libraries used by VS. It's also a native
>> program, rather than one running on a VM.
> 
> You know, people say "oh, Java isn't slow". And then this happens...

It's one of the fastest languages on the shootout game.

> Also, about this "Windows comes with the .NET libraries". If that's so, 
> then why did I have to wait 20 minutes for it to download .NET when I 
> installed it?

older Windows?  anyway, .NET does not count when looking at the memory 
statistcs of a program that uses it.  It's "part" of Windows.  That's 
why you look at VS and it looks fine.  That's why you look at Firefox or 
Netbeans or some other foreign app and it looks like it's sucking all 
your memory:  their particular libs are alien to Windows and thus are 
taken into account when showing statistcs.  Not so with microsoft libs, 
so VS and IE look pretty lightweight.

they play dirty.

>>> (x -> y -> z) -> x -> (j -> y) -> y -> z
>>
>> haha, you already new that from the haskellwiki. :p
> 
> Erm, no... It's a simple question of type inference.

I prefer to leave that to the compiler or interpreter.  Better yet, I 
prefer not to think of types. :)

> I mean, c'mon, it's 
> not exactly a complicated code fragment. It's two function calls.

two function calls that take other functions and return other functions 
and ... well, you get the idea.

>>> That's not even parsable. (Indentation is significant, remember?)
>>
>> ah, seems indentation is lost (too bad for haskell). But nice style on
>> giving up.
> 
> Well, yeah, because even if I could understand it, that wouldn't prove 
> anything to anyone.

BTW, I looked up my post and indentation was fine.  But anyway, it's the 
pidigits haskell program at the shootout:

http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?test=pidigits&lang=ghc

>>>>> Yes, Java /still/ sucks. :-P
>>>>
>>>> Yes and that is a feature by design.
>>>
>>> O RLY?
>>
>> Yes, so that your hired slaves can't cut the pulses and get free.
> 
> Wuh?

well, they do try to cut their pulses, but the language doesn't afford 
that.  Nor shooting on the foot.

>>> Ha! If only... They don't say "write once, test everywhere" for
>>> nothing. ;-)
>>
>> seems like most of the thousands of open-source java libs are well
>> tested already.
> 
> Wait - there are open-source Java libs now?
> 
> (Last time I looked at Java, all anyone ever used it for was pointless 
> Tic-Tac-Toe applets. Nobody ever wrote actual large applications with 
> it, just small toy examples.)

Earth to Andrew, Earth to Andrew!  An import message has been delivered: 
  this is not 1964 anymore.

Hint:  Apache once was a (patchy) http server.  Now it's one huge java shop.

After Microsoft shoved Java away from the desktop, it hid on the server 
(where it shoved Perl away).

>>>> BTW, Ant is yet another example of XML-madness: it's basically a 
>>>> verbose
>>>> XML makefile for java.
>>>
>>> Oh well. At least you don't need tab characters. :-P
>>
>> says the haskell programmer... :p
> 
> What? Tab characters are explicitly disallowed in Haskell. :-P

except where needed.

I prefer proper free-form parentheses. :)

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