On 1/20/2012 10:00 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 09:14:37 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>
>>>> If they were planning to make it legal to lock Americans up without
>>>> trial, *that* would be seriously disturbing.
>>>
>>> They already have that.
>>
>> OK. In that case, if I had the misfortune to live in America, I'd be
>> *way* more worried about that...
>
> Indeed, there has been some noise about that addition to the
> appropriations bill.
>
>>>> Censoring the Internet is merely worrying
>>>
>>> Maybe for you.  We have this thing here in the US called "free speech"
>>
>> More like "had", by the looks of things...
>
> What do you base that statement on?  SOPA and PIPA are not actually laws
> that are being enforced - they are just bills that are currently dead.
>
Or, so we think. Seems the Fed already "used" part of this law, even 
before it was officially presented *as* one:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/17444/p2p_dns_to_take_on_icann_after_us_domain_seizures

The interesting result is that someone else already thought of the 
easiest bloody stupid way to pretty much hose there whole law. P2P DNS. 
There goes my multimillion dollar idea... lol

Seriously though, the biggest thing is the, "deny you the ability to 
even pay your bills, by cutting off the ability to transact in the US.", 
part of the damn thing. And you know damn well that is going on too, for 
legitimate crimes. What makes the bills bloody stupid isn't any of that, 
its the fact that you don't have to have any damn evidence, other than 
basically an anonymous tip, to do any of it, as they are written. Right 
now, the Fed at least has to have *some* cause to do it.

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