>> If they were planning to make it legal to lock Americans up without
>> trial, *that* would be seriously disturbing.
>
> They already have that.

OK. In that case, if I had the misfortune to live in America, I'd be 
*way* more worried about that...

>> Censoring the Internet is merely worrying
>
> Maybe for you.  We have this thing here in the US called "free speech"

More like "had", by the looks of things...

> The burden of
> proof is on the alleged infringer, not on the alleged copyright holder.
>
> Pardon me for saying this, but that's fucked up.

Yeah, whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty"? That's just 
*wrong*. You shouldn't be able to punish people without one shred of 
evidence of any crime.

> Because here in the US we *also* have something called "due process",
> which ensures that we have a right to legal representation, a fair trial,
> etc.
>
> Except with these laws, due process is entirely circumvented.

That's just wrong.

> The point of the protest yesterday was to raise awareness and get these
> bills shelved.
>
> And it was successful.

I'm not so sure about that... While I grant that many more people have 
now heard about this (e.g., me), I'm not hearing anything about that 
stopping this stuff actually becoming law. And even if these bills never 
become law, surely the lobbyists will just keep bills like this coming 
year after year until one of them /does/ make it into law...

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