Le 2012-01-10 22:33, Patrick Elliott a écrit :
> On 1/10/2012 3:59 AM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
>> From where did he came, nothing is sure. Only the last 3 years of his
>> life were dedicated to propaganda and sedition. It is also well-known
>> that he frequented a whore (Marie Madeleine)... put that on the prudish
>> and puritan Church. Coherency and consistency never make it inside dogma.
>>
> Actually, the whore thing is in dispute. As I said in another post, Mary
> was such a common name at the time that it was used as a derogatory
> statement when encountering Jewish women. If you go back to some of the
> earliest translations, its fairly clear that there where in fact at
> least "two" such Marys, one of them a follower, and the other some
> random street whore, who decided to wash his feet. Even the chronology
> makes no sense, if taken into account, with her being, seemingly
> "unknown", wandering in off the street, and becoming so impressed she
> had to wash his feet, **after** earlier parts of the same text, where
> she is already mentioned as traveling with him (this makes no logical
> sense, unless you get a later "edited" version, like the KJV, which
> attempts, badly, to "fix" these little errors).
>
> The "Whore and follower, both" bit was created much later, as a means of
> showing, even as they ignored it themselves, how much "purer" he was
> than the rest of us (and, at least initially, to show how we needed to
> be nice, even to bad people). By the time the puritans came along, it
> was common to confuse them as the same person. The puritans themselves
> are notable for taking the already distorted meaning of, "taking the
> lords name in vein", and making it into cursing and using words that
> involved bodily functions. The original meaning, BTW, was the use of
> imprecatory prayer, to ask god to give them things, or curse others.
> Hardly a surprise that "modern" Christians use prayer for almost bloody
> nothing else. lol

You mean like asking to win a football game?

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