On 1/3/2012 8:49 PM, Darren New wrote:
> On 1/1/2012 21:14, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> include, "It feels like its true, or makes me happy.", as a valid
>> criteria
>> for testing an ideas validity,
>
> To be fair, when the idea you're testing is "how can I be happy", this
> makes perfect sense.
>
Usually its not though. Its quite often, "if it makes me happy, 
shouldn't it make everyone else?" The logical answer is, "not 
necessarily", the believers answer is, "of course, they just don't yet 
comprehend how to be happy the way I am, so I need to make them." That 
your basic assumptions may be wrong, those being that a) it would make 
others happy, and b) your not just happy because your slightly nuts, may 
be wrong is only part of the problem. There is the whole, "If I force 
this one someone, will they be happy, even if I am right?", question can 
be kind of important too. Sometimes, even if the answer to the later is, 
"no, they wouldn't be", its short term pain, but if one, or both, of 
your prior premises are wrong, and a lot of other people not being happy 
*while* living under the same assumptions may be a hint there is a 
problem, then you can also, logically, end up with long term unhappiness 
too.

As a rule, such questions are not asked, assumed to already be answered, 
or waved away as, "Not understanding how my exactly identical gibberish 
is superior to that other persons gibberish, so you will be happy with 
mine, even though you are not with their." Its got bells on it, or 
something, so its, like, you know, different and stuff... lol

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