On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 09:04:35 -0500, John VanSickle wrote:

> I did not say that the planet is not getting warmer.  I said that the
> climate will not behave any differently.  One is not the other.

That's not particularly logical, John.  If one changes a variable, then 
the outcome changes.  If the planet is getting warmer, then there are 
effects caused by that - and we're seeing that.  Have you read the 
reports about water shortages in (I think it was) Peru, where the glacial 
melt has accelerated (demonstrated fact) and is causing a drought?

> It is now a documented fact that much of the research purported to
> support AGW was falsified and/or misrepresented, 

"Much" is an exaggeration, and the data that was 'exaggerated' has been 
removed from the data set, and the trends still show pretty clearly.  In 
fact, that study that was funded by the Koch bros. used all of the 
validated data and was intended to actually answer the question one way 
or the other - and the person doing the research reportedly didn't care 
what the outcome was.

And the outcome was that it's real.

> and claiming that this
> puts me into the moon-landing denier camp is mere ad hominem.

I didn't put you in that camp - in fact, I was pretty careful *not* to do 
so.  So lumping this statement in with the rest makes it sound like I 
did.  I'd appreciate it if you didn't do that.

Jim

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