>> Perhaps it's just because people don't argue about it quite so much?
>
> I can't imagine knowing the one term and not the other. That's weird.

I'm surprised too. The only thing I can think of is that if you sell a 
widget, that *obviously* goes to the widget profit center. But if you 
have to buy 10 more PCs, does that go to the admin office cost center? 
Or does it go to the IT cost center? Or perhaps it goes to the project 
planning cost center, because it was them that wanted more admin staff? 
Or...

>> That sounds pretty much like *exactly* how almost every company views
>> programmers.
>
> Well, that's what he's saying. You have to go to either a technical
> start up, or to someplace like Microsoft or Google or Facebook or
> something like that where what they're selling is what you're producing.

As I understand it, a "technical startup" is a polite way of saying "you 
will be paid peanuts and in three months' time you will be unemployed 
again because the company has been liquidated".

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