On 10/25/2011 11:09 PM, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> Patrick Elliott wrote:
>> And that isn't just
>> opinion, its an entire field, called neuroscience.
>
> In which you're an expert? I doubt it.
Don't need to be. I know people that are. I have read things on the 
subject, often, and none of it suggests, at all, that the sort of purely 
anecdotal details behind 99% of the UFO phenomena is worth jack with 
respect to it constituting "evidence" of anything at all.

> I also doubt you have watched the
> series and verified the facts, I haven't verified all of them but the
> some main characters. Lazard worked at a secret facility but that's it,
> serious UFOlogists reject him as they have tried to verify his claims
> with him, he just wants the attention; his car has a plate MJ-1, if your
> life is in danger from Gov threats you're going to be announcing you
> worked at Majestic? lol what a joke. He even breaks the law selling
> illegal radioactive isotopes from time to time when he should be hiding.
>
> You don't know everyone on Earth and what they do or not to affirm they
> ALL embellish, if a memory is strong enough you don't need to is always
> fresh for some reason even 40+ years I know this because I have met
> people that over time have said the same stories WITHOUT embellishment.
> Check the series and then make conclusions, you'll see now you're
> assuming too much.
I have watched several series of the sort, and yeah, some places, and 
even people, are verifiable, sort of. The problem is, so are places and 
even people in the Bible, and its almost as silly to suggest that the 
otherwise completely unsupportable assertions about UFOs and alien 
bodies make *any* more sense than unsupported claims about the fall of 
the walls of Jericho, or the even more idiotic claims about Exodus 
(hint, in the later case the ***only*** evidence of anyone Semitic in 
the area is from hundreds of years too early, and it was a group that 
pushed out the locals, and for a time ***ruled*** Egypt, before being 
ousted again, not slaves), etc.

The facts of places and people do not directly support, without other 
evidence, of which there isn't any, the contentions of "what" happened, 
or "what" they actually saw. And, again, since all you have it witness 
testimony, and the vast majority of that has been established decades 
*after* the events, its completely unreliable, nor is it even possible 
at this point, with *any* technique you might imagine trying, to verify 
which bits are merely things they imagined, and which ones they actually 
witnessed. Human memory isn't a hard drive, or a photograph. Its more 
like a bloody warehouse full of "parts" of photographs, and bits of 
recorded media, with bits of string running between the filing cabinets, 
to indicate, more or less, which one's relate to each other. If a string 
slips, or gets connected wrong, or even you look in the wrong drawer, 
the result is a complete bloody disaster.

The brain was never meant to be precise. It does you *no* good to be 
afraid of one specific cat, if its more efficient to only remember size, 
color, general shape, and big teeth, and put all that together into 
some, "Big scary things to avoid", file. That you run across the same 
cat and "recognize" it as the same thing is almost incidental. You could 
just as easily run across a bear, and become convinced, by the same 
memory, that it was a bear the first time too. Precisions isn't 
something it does. With something like, "Yep, I definitely saw some 
strange material I had never seen before.", there is *nothing* there to 
build a conclusion from that excluded "space aliens", from "weather 
balloons", for someone that sees it, as long as there is, then, or at 
some point later, sufficient cause to conclude that "space aliens" is a 
plausible source. And, its all down hill from there, as they say.

Same goes, even more so, for all the nuts since, that spend their time 
"looking for" phenomena, every damn one of which either thinks UFOs 
might exist, or do, or are intentionally looking for them, etc. Where is 
there, "Its big and has teeth", memory going to take them, to swamp gas, 
or military flairs, or alien space ships? Their going to look at the 
damn bear, and assume that its been one, all along.

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