On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 08:58:00 -0400, gregjohn wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 16:53:30 -0400, gregjohn wrote:
>>
>> > As a maxim, this is perfectly appropriate cynicism for something like
>> > Facebook. It's probably even appropriate for things like Windows,
>> > where you might pay cash and your frustrations with the product
>> > merely demonstrate that you yourself are the product, not the
>> > customer.
>> >
>> > Even on the worst day, with your most cynical hat on, this doesn't
>> > apply to povray,  which is very cool.
>>
>> That also doesn't particularly apply to open source software as well.
>> :)
>>
>> Jim
> 
> 
> I'm still trying to figure out what happened to VLC.  I have had very
> reasonable versions running for ~years on a few boxes, including WinXP. 
> Recently tried to get one for my wife's laptop, and they "Recommended"
> installation of Yahoo! toolbar.

That's one of my biggest pet peeves.  In my old job, I would help sites 
set up something that required Java, but explicitly needed an otherwise 
barebones browser (ie, no addons).  Sun used to automatically install the 
Google toolbar, so I'd have to install Java and then uninstall the 
toolbar.

They changed that behaviour, but I hate when installers install crap I 
don't want and didn't ask for.

Jim

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