It's extremely rare to hear something insightful being said on a talk 
show. However, just once, I did witness such a thing.

The following exchange occurred between some random parent, and the head 
teacher of some obscure school:

Teacher: We don't perform competitive activities at our school.
Parent: Don't you believe in /challenging/ children? Don't you believe 
in setting goals that will stretch them?
Teacher: We do believe in presenting children with strong challenges. 
However, we believe it is important for children to learn that their 
success doesn't have to come at the expense of anybody else.

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