On Fri, 16 Sep 2011 12:00:28 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> On 9/16/2011 10:15, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>  not the same as "running a Linux server" in my book.
> 
> I agree. That's precisely my point.  Saying "you never have to reboot a
> Linux machine except for kernel upgrades" is incorrect. It assumes the
> box has all the tools it needs to manage it without rebooting, and it
> assumes your software environment isn't hardened against you
> manipulating it in the ways described.

You specified servers and desktops - not appliance devices.

I also never said "you never have to reboot a Linux machine except for 
kernel updates".  I said "you usually never have to reboot a Linux 
machine except for kernel updates".  There's a world of difference in 
those two statements.

I also very specifically stated that if you're dealing with zombie 
processes, a Linux system *requires* a reboot to the best of my knowledge.

>> That doesn't mean a reboot is *necessary*, which is what we were
>> discussing.
> 
> OK, so how do you upgrade your PRL without rebooting your phone? My
> point is that claiming "you don't have to" assumes a whole bunch of
> facts that aren't true just because you're running Linux.

I've never had a need to, so I don't know.  Presumably you could stop a 
service or unload/reload a driver, or drop to single user mode and then 
go back to the default runlevel.

Jim

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