On 5/7/2011 7:56 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Sat, 07 May 2011 17:23:31 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>
>> On 5/7/2011 16:48, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> That's true in some states, but not in Utah.  In Utah they require an
>>> ID, and there's been a lot of discussion about whether or not that
>>> constitutes a poll tax or not.
>>
>> Oh, I forgot to add, you can almost always get a government ID for free,
>> or the government would have a hard time requiring you to have an ID to
>> get various services. E.g., most anywhere you get a driver's license,
>> you can go to get a non-driver ID using the same evidence you use to
>> prove your ID.
>
> Oh, sure - my stepson had a state-issued ID because he hadn't done
> drivers ed.  But I don't think it was free, there still was a cost
> involved.
>
Yeah, its only the SSN that is "free". Everything else they make you pay 
money for, especially if its a photo ID. That is one of the reasons 
people are complaining about it with polls. You are going to *require* 
someone that may have never had a photo ID in their life to *buy* one, 
just to do what they have a right to do anyway? No, if you are going to 
require it, then you damn well better provide one, for free, to those 
that can prove they have right to it, instead of forcing people, 
especially poor people, to pay $20 for the damn thing (which is what one 
costs in Arizona).

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