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  Re: A kind of revolution is happening in the United States  
From: Patrick Elliott
Date: 13 Apr 2011 17:57:38
Message: <4da61c52$1@news.povray.org>
On 4/13/2011 9:02 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Apr 2011 01:55:41 -0700, Patrick Elliott wrote:
>
>> True enough. But, the question is where is the tipping point. Where do
>> people stop accepting, as a general whole, obvious lies, simply because
>> a lot of people say they believe them?
>
> There's a bit of herd mentality that takes place when it comes to
> believing crazy stuff.  I do wonder (as Bill Maher once postulated) if
> people were raised believing in magic beans and beanstalks if they'd
> defend it to the death when they grew up.
>
> Jim
Been having a discussion over on a Youtube thread which answers that 
question. I doubt you would deny that a) the Greeks/Romans actually 
believed their gods where real, b) there isn't a whole lot, if anything, 
from the time, questioning their existence, c) there is a lot of "holy 
books", legends and stories, about them, d) all of this from the 
*actual* time they where supposed to be performing their miracles. Yet, 
the Christian on the thread insists that the Bible itself, a few known 
forgeries (some of which, like the one in Josephus' history is no longer 
even supported by all Biblical scholars as legit), and some vague 
references to people with similar names, nearly all of it written half a 
century later, constitutes "equal" evidence to that of any real 
historical figure, and is in fact "superior" to that of all the other 
prior mythologies, *and* most of those same historical figures. I mean, 
this guy wants to argue that we have more sound evidence for a real 
Jesus than we do for Julius Caesar.

I have no problem agreeing with Mill Maher on the subject.

The fact that, as I also just pointed out, this "messiah" couldn't come 
up with anything to do that wasn't a direct replication of what ever 
false god and con artist has "supposedly" performed over the last 10,000 
years of recorded history, instead of like, regrowing a missing limb, or 
something, but only makes a unique case in as much as cramming as many 
of those prior miracles into one career as possible, probably isn't 
going to faze him a bit either. :(


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