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  Re: weird media artifacts?  
From: CShake
Date: 27 Feb 2009 15:56:48
Message: <49a85390@news.povray.org>

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> clipka wrote:
>> CShake <cshake+pov### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, it's not something that seems to have been fixed with the
>>> beta. Here is a simpler test image, it renders identically in all the
>>> version I have to test in: Windows: Offical 3.6.1 & 3.7b31 and MegaPOV
>>> 1.2.1; Mac OS X: official 3.6.1, MegaPov 1.2.1 (PowerPC)
>>>
>>> I didn't try clipka's idea of media sampling quality yet, but here's the
>>> code for this test image so you can verify:
>> This is indeed a sampling quality issue: As the ray travels through the media,
>> it encounters alternating intervals of bright / dark light caused by the
>> "patterned" spotlight from the right.
>>
>> The default number of samples is not enough to sample each single of these light
>> cones reliably. Note that you have something like 5 light cones in sequence to
>> be traversed by a ray; the default of 10 samples is barely enough to place a
>> single sample in each bright and each dark interval, and leaves no room for any
>> precision.
>>
>> So with default settings you inevitably get an aliasing effect in the media
>> sampling.
>>
>> With just that single light source, it isn't much of a problem: The aliasing
>> errors average out to a good deal, and the result looks convincing enough to
>> the human eye.
>>
>> The problem surfaces, however, with the additional spotlight, as it causes POV
>> to modify the distribution of the media samples in an attempt to optimize it
>> for the standard case (whic is that the spotlight's cone makes up one single
>> illuminated interval), resulting in modulations to the aliasing effects, and
>> eventually moiree patterns.
>>
>> Cranking up the quality helps indeed, e.g. using intervals 10 and samples 10,10
>> significantly reduces the amount of moiree (though it still remains visible; at
>> the same time the light pattern becomes less smooth, but close inspection shows
>> that this is actually more realistic.)
>>
> 	Note that using intervals 1 and samples 100 should give better
> results than intervals 10 samples 10 for the same render time (and
> of course, you can then lower the samples again to improve render
> time, 50 or even 30 should be enough here).
> 
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Thanks, the increased samples with fewer intervals makes a huge 
difference in render time, I tried this scene first with 30 intervals 
(ratio 0.5) and minimum 10 samples, then 1 interval with 100 samples and 
it ran at less than 1/4 the time and produced superior results.
Seems like my problem has been fixed!

Working replacement line for previously posted code:
interior{media{scattering{2,1} method 3 intervals 1 ratio 0.5 samples 
100,1000 variance 1.0/256 confidence 0.96 density{rgb 0.001}}}

Chris


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