On 05-Jan-09 21:59, Darren New wrote:
> andrel wrote:
>> You could be right, but my guess is that even if pirated DVD's are not 
>> illegal in China (which I doubt)
> 
> What makes you think they're pirated?

because they were too cheap is the usual answer.

>> you still cannot import them into the US. 
> 
> That's a different thing than copyright violation, tho. :-)

never claimed that, I think I said "you are guilty of something that I 
don't know the English word for"

>> importing pirated movies may be handled the same. IANAL though.
> 
> Again, whoever tries to confiscate them or whatever would first have to 
> prove that the manufacturer in China didn't have a license to copy them 
> in the first place. (Of course, you could confiscate on suspicion, but 
> that's just abuse of power.)

Customs here is trained in recognizing pirated material.

>>> Copyright law (in the USA at least) prevents you from copying things 
>>> without permission. 
>>
>> I think the main discussion is: can you legally own pirated copies?
> 
> It wouldn't be copyright law that prevents it, is my point. 
indeed ;)
> There are 
> laws against theft of services, and against taking possession of stolen 
> goods (with various penalties depending on whether you knew they were 
> stolen), but AFAIK there's no law against owning a copy of something 
> that the seller shouldn't have copied. I'd like to hear if there is.

I'd say that here you don't even need to have bought it for money.

>  > IIRC the rule here is that you can always have at most one copy of an IP
>> protected work that you do own as a backup.
> 
> The rule *here* is you can have *at least* one copy as a backup. At 
> least for software.

interesting.

> You can also make copies if it's fundamentally necessary for using the 
> copyrighted product. E.g., the owner can't claim you violated copyright 
> by loading the software into the computer's memory or the DVD player's 
> memory.

true
> 
>> Often followed by a note that these restriction do not apply in 
>> countries where such restrictions are illegal. ;)
> 
> That too.
>

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