Warp wrote:
> 
>   The new copyright law forbids copying music from illegal sources.
> The vast majority of internet sources are defined as illegal, so you
> basically can't download music legally (except from legal online shops).
> 

A lot of people say that it says so. So far I hadn't found any mention 
about that, nor anyone has been able to point it out for me. But I think 
I found it now:





Even this actually points out that there *can't* be any payment for the 
copier to do, *expect* if (s)he knows or should know that the source is 
illegal. Yes, everyone should know that most of the music at p2p 
networks is illegal - in case they actually are considered as "teos" 
(which pretty much means it's original, ie. something new) - but if a 
download web page seems legal and one ain't an expert, can (s)he 
actually know that the source is illegal?

Nasty, I'd say. But the practice will (unfortunately) show us that lack 
of knowledge is - once again - not an excuse.

And still the copyright law allows you to ie. loan a CD from a library 
and copy it. By using the right software from the beginning you won't 
even notice any copy protections, so they can't be technically 
effective. Ah, and radio recording also, is legal by these payments 
(yes, the quality is a different thing here...).

>   (OTOH eavesdropping internet traffic is still illegal, so how they are
> going to enforce the copyright law is anybody's guess. I think a police
> officer commented on the new copyright law that a law doesn't make sense
> when it's impossible to enforce it.)

Remember Finreactor? If names get gathered in same kinds of cases, they 
may have a chance to find enough proofs to nail people. It think it 
would be illegal for me to write here that one should make sure he won't 
register to any pirate source (at least with real addresses etc), so I 
won't write it here. You'll just need to come up with your own ideas, 
but I'm sure it's not a problem, since POV'ers tend to be thinking and 
problem-solving people.

>   The same law also says that it is legal to circumvent the protections
> if it's necessary to listen to the music in the first place.

Yep :).

>   The new copyright is really messed up. Nobody understands it fully.

I think so too. I think that not even Tanja 
Karpela/Saarela/Vienonen/whattheheckwillhersurnamebetomorrow understand 
it fully, even though she's pretty much behind it.

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Eero "Aero" Ahonen
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