Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> I saw a LOL line on another conversation.
>>     > > Having used Ada and C++ extensively,
>>     > > I'll take Ada over C++ any day.
>>     > Never having used Ada at all, I'll take Ada over C++.
> 
>   Ada may be a wonderful language, but its lack of recent popularity
> means that the amount of available libraries is probably quite small.

This is true. Even simple things like base64 are not really easily 
available. I was just amused at the quote.

> No matter how wonderful a language is, having to reinvent wheels with
> it is a major letdown.

That's why I'm looking at Erlang. Nice industrial libraries to go along 
with the "bizarre" language.

>   If I had to choose a language other than C++, I'll probably choose Java
> because of the amount of libraries and portability, or C# because it
> sounds a bit better than Java. (Or if efficiency is not an issue, maybe
> I would just go with PHP.)

PHP is really sucky for anything other than what all the libraries are 
already written for. :-)  It's a good tool to have in the toolbox, but 
I'd not write a (say) desktop app in it, or for that matter anything 
intended to run longer than a web page hit.

>> It really is amazingly well thought out as a language. Plus they've 
>> added generics
> 
>   I thought templates are evil? ;)

I don't think C# generics are like templates. It's been a while, but I 
don't remember even that syntax.

>   It still makes be laugh out loud to remember how Java advocates
> fiercely attacked C++ templates. Then, some years later, they added
> some crippled template mechanism to Java (which still doesn't solve
> all the issues).

They didn't change the VM to support it. How good could it be? I think 
it was more pre-processor tricks than anything, IIRC.

>> I thought that was the idea behind Vista? Most of it rewritten to .NET?
>   Ah, now I understand why it's so large, heavy and slow.

Yep. And not even actually ported. :-)

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."

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