St. wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message 
> news:46db376a$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>St. wrote:
>>
>>> Are they worst people in the world, or not?
> 
> 
>>Dunno Steve, I'm thinking you'll loose this one.  I mean suppose the 
>>foreward car was some big mother Esplanade or something else huge, a motor 
>>home or something, such that it is taking most of the space.  Are you 
>>going to insist that because it is a 'two-car' space you can park your 
>>minicoup or whatever, and block the guy's drive, just because maybe you 
>>can get your front nose over the line and into some fraction of the space? 
>>Or what if 4 motor bikes were there?  Seems like you could park whatever 
>>you want as long as you don't violate the end markings, but if you can't 
>>fit your car in, however reasonable its size, then you just can't?
> 
> 
>    Oh, I know I'll lose, I'm prepared to pay. As for parking there if there 
> was a bigger vehicle parked there, and say, there was only half a space, I 
> just wouldn't park there, knowing full well that I'd probably get a ticket 
> with half a car stuck out the back end. But, what's that distance in the 
> picture? A foot? 18 inches? It's just petty, that's all. My main point is if 
> it's going to be a two car bay, then make sure that it's big enough for two 
> cars in the first place, otherwise, what's the point?
> 
>     ~Steve~ 
> 
> 
Ahh. Okay, I see what you mean on the 'pettiness' point, that you are 
not really doing harm, and the marking is a guideline.  You might even 
get a break there. I mean if expanding the zone is common practice.  On 
the other hand maybe the owner of the driveway complained.  My brother 
lives in a very toney, leafy, old money section of Toronto with quiet, 
wide streets. When I went to visit him once it became apparent that 
parking was the undeclared war in the neighbourhood.  Before even saying 
hello to me my sister-in-law asks me where I parked! In NY there is an 
actual measurement, 15 inches 2 feet? something like that, that applies 
to driveways.  I know one fellow who actually took a picture of a 
situation when he got ticketed but the parking bureau just told him that 
he could of moved the car before taking the pic!  Obviously not, they 
were packed in like sardines, if he could have he would have in the 
first place.

I'm having problems on the 'two car' idea though.  I mean what is the 
alternative?  Somehow try and mark the space for one 'full size' car and 
limit it to that?  Then what do you do if you have something bigger? At 
least they are giving as much space as they can.  Seems to me they are 
just saying here are the limits, use it however, just don't violate the 
lines.  There are parking *meters* in NY here, usually at the back of a 
block, that are setup such that there is no way the space will 
accommodate a full size model car.  And beware the driver who parks with 
his rear bumper a fraction into the pedestrian crosswalk.  But hey, the 
city needs the money, and everyone wants parking, and so if you have a 
small enough car?  I mean think of it this way, maybe the sanctimonious 
little sh*t in his little car, who gets the little space, would 
otherwise be taking the full size space you need.  Lame, but the best I 
can do for you.

What I hate?  Here the cops are all over yellow cabs for blocking 
traffic.  Meanwhile cab drivers suffer from kidney stones, driving 11 
hours a shift with no where to piss.  There are taxi relief stands, 
quite a lot of them actually, but you would never know it.  Everyone 
just parks in them as if they are free parking, and the signs are never 
enforced by these traffic bums.

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