Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Jim, not entirely same material, but you saw that sax a couple of threads
> above. I would expect something in that direction for the chalice.
> 

Thanks for the feedback.

Yeah about Steves Sax, but it doesn't seem to work here, assuming that 
there he blew out

the reflection and smooth settings to get essentially a mirror-like 
surface.

When I do that on this object it tends to
look like colored glass.  I definitely need a blurred reflection effect 
together with a high specular I think.  Maybe just a matter of finer 
tweeking.  If I boost the specular too much the upward facing surface of 
the base just blows out.  I think I also need a way to distress the 
whole surface more.  I think the "painted on" look Bob referred to has a 
lot to do with the homogeneity along the joins of some of the metal 
work. Like where the little containing ridges for the enamel inlays meet 
the surface they are resting on.  Actually, in the reference those are 
serrated into a beads almost. Might have to go to a bit-map for the 
metal texture too in order to get some tarnish into the seems etc. 
though that would be a lot of work.  Will prob add more irregularity and 
detail to the metalwork first.

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