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  is radiosity (MP) really necessary? [tot~80KB Jpg]  
From: Bob Hughes
Date: 5 Sep 2000 08:47:53
Message: <39b4eb79@news.povray.org>
I figure that subject line will get some attention  :-)

Well, to explain myself, I checked 3 renders against each other (by eye, not
extensively) concerning render time and appearance.  I was stunned to find a
16 X slower render without any visible benefit from it.  A low count of 50
and recursion of 1 took a mere 19 minutes and 11 seconds.  Then using count
100 recursion_limit 2 it went to 5 hours and 15 minutes!  Without radiosity
at all was a 5 min 42 sec render.
The peak memory amount really jumps too.  I mean, wow, is that really needed
when the 6 minute render looks okay?  At most the 20 minute one...
I have to add that the 3rd image actually did finish but I stupidly
rerendered using the same filename to make sure about the non-radiosity one.
Luckily I had screen captured it before that.  Believe me, no noticeable
difference between the recursion 1 and 2 except for a texture change on the
chimney I did in the script.

Following are excerpts from those stats in WinMegaPov 0.5a:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
No radiosity, it was skipped using #if(), statistics even so?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity samples calculated:      38461 (5.26 percent)
Radiosity samples reused:         692156
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smallest Alloc:                 26 bytes   Largest:            49200
Peak memory used:          5463401 bytes
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time For Parse:    0 hours  0 minutes   1.0 seconds (1 seconds)
Time For Trace:    0 hours  5 minutes  41.0 seconds (341 seconds)
    Total Time:    0 hours  5 minutes  42.0 seconds (342 seconds)
Total cache size: 16880
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity with count=50, recursion=1, error bound=0.36
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity samples calculated:      38461 (5.26 percent)
Radiosity samples reused:         692156
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smallest Alloc:                 26 bytes   Largest:            49200
Peak memory used:         11965226 bytes
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time For Parse:    0 hours  0 minutes   1.0 seconds (1 seconds)
Time For Trace:    0 hours 19 minutes  10.0 seconds (1150 seconds)
    Total Time:    0 hours 19 minutes  11.0 seconds (1151 seconds)
Total cache size: 16880
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity with count=100, recursion=2, error bound=0.321
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Radiosity samples calculated:     410694 (4.31 percent)
Radiosity samples reused:        9126101
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Smallest Alloc:                 26 bytes   Largest:            49200
Peak memory used:         77512206 bytes
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Time For Parse:    0 hours  0 minutes   1.0 seconds (1 seconds)
Time For Trace:    5 hours 10 minutes   9.0 seconds (18609 seconds)
    Total Time:    5 hours 10 minutes  10.0 seconds (18610 seconds)
Total cache size: 16880
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I know there are scenes that do wonderfully but this apparently was a flop.

Bob
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