>Yes! This it is something like this one should be looking after; I
>personally didn't like all the rambling about placing "POV" and "RAY" in
>numerous shapes and colors.

I got tired of trying, and also just ran out of ideas.

>Without intended insultation of any possible
>opinion of the POV-team, the logo should be a _symbol_ rather than just
>fancy letters...

Not necessarilly, you can see lots of commercial logos that are just text.
Think of the Nintendo logo for example. There are many others out there. I
believe that the possibility exists of someone finding a nice font to write
"POV-Ray" in and turn it into a logo.

>And an eye is a good example. This one is stylized and
>looks good in low-res, which should be a good criterion.

I agree. Although very minor tweaking was used to improve it slightly.
Mostly sharpening, and manual "invisible" pixels removal.

>The colors is a point many argue about, and I can see the problem.
>It _might_ perhaps do with two different colors?
>But I like the pastel idea, that's for sure.

It does use 2 different colors. One for the ring and one for the pupil. I'll
be trying out more combinations today. I did go into Photoshop to play with
the Hue, but honestly, none of the colors worked.

>IMO you need more fantasy to see the hydrogen atom than an eye.. ;-)

You don't need fantasy to see that... you just have to be nerdy, like the
all of us. :)

>The problem might be that it doesn't say "POVRAY!" at first glance. First
of
>all, that is the case with _all_ logos in the beginning, before people can
>familiarize themselves with it.

Yeah. I mean, does the Black & Decker logo say "Black and Decker" to you?
Does the Imation hand-with-a-magic-wand logo say "Imation"? Getting back to
our logo, I've reached the following conclusion: I don't think there is a
logo out there that can both NOT include the text "POV" and/or "Ray" AND
"say" POV-Ray at the same time. We've got to either find a nice one that we
can get used to, or find some nice, stylized way of writing POV-Ray that
everyone is happy with. How about a rip-off of the Playstation logo?

>Second, "povray" to most people here, I
>think is a "reflective sphere over a checkered plane"; perhaps it's time to
>reconsider?

If you think about it, that represents any raytracer. It's not POV-specific.
Knowhatimean? We could do that, but we also have to find a way of setting it
apart, so it doesn't say "generic raytracer".

>Just suggesting here, but maybe simply adding the word "POVRAY"
>in capital sans-serif (I'd suggest Univers) in black above the logo, with
>good letter spacing, would do the trick?

I'll do that in my next post.

>Just my opinions in the moment here...

I appreciate them. Thanks.

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