Ok so to have an include, it is easy:

scene->setting->include and there you choose your include file.
Doing like this, you cannot modify any properties of the object within
Moray, so you cannot move it for example.
If you want to be able to change some properties of an object
which is define by an include file, you must do like this:

go to the site : http://www.enter.net/~cfusner/tutorial/ch25.html

read and load the Triscan macro. With this macro, you will be 
able to create a rough RAW file of your object define by an inc.
Now with 3d win : http://www.stmuc.com/thbaier/
you can convert your raw file as udo/inc. So you have an udo file
and an inc file, now you replace this inc file (generate by 3d win)
by the initial inc which define your object.
Now in Moray, you create an udo, and a rough representation of 
your object will appear and if you move it, your inc object will also 
move in your scene. 


Fabian.



> 
> i don't think i made myself clear.  i just want to save objects as includes
> for organizational purposes.  my computer is fast enough that having all
> that information on the screen at once isn't a problem.  it's just that in
> regular povray, i would hand code an object, save it as an .inc file and
> write a separate .pov scene file with camera and lights with a #include
> reference to the .inc file.  that's all i want to do, but i want to do it in
> moray.  the thing pascal mentioned, does the object in the include need to
> be positioned already since it can't be manipulated within moray?
> 
> ryan constantine wrote:
> 
> > here's the situation, i'm creating a complex model (over 200 primitives
> > so far) and i would like to save the individual parts as .inc files
> > instead of .pov files.  of course, i have already been saving those
> > parts as objects instead of scenes within moray, but how can i get moray
> > to #include a previously saved object instead of adding it to the
> > scene?  does merge object automatically add it to the scene?  is there
> > another way to add an object to a scene?  if it's in the docs, point the
> > way.
> >
> > the main reason i want to have the .inc files is for distribution.  some
> > of the parts are so complex that nobody will want to mess with them
> > anyway and putting them in the main scene file gets really messy!  plus,
> > i only named major components so everything minor is cylinder136,
> > cube078 etc.
> >
> > also, is there a way to take advantage of povray's programming elements
> > within moray or will i have to do that by hand after model creation?
> > thanks,
> > ryan constantine

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