Aha after hours searching these seem like two good methods, thanks I've been
looking for a good way, especially that can be animated.  The mesh idea
worked amazingly, and created blinding effects, but wasn't suitable for
animation or blobs (converter cant be found).  These seem like two methods I
can look into.  Thanks

P3TE

Margus Ramst <mar### [at] peakeduee> wrote in message
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> The media idea is damn clever! Not something for close-ups, but it looks
great
> in this view. Too bad it won't work for animations...
> The other might need a little tweaking, right now it's not quite as
convincing.
>
> Margus
>
> Chris Colefax wrote:
> >
> > In response to Peter Cracknell's recent Bear posting...
> [snip]

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