I don't know... Someone who has this idea lives close to this idea.
If it would really be out of question to you, you wouldn't have
mentioned it, right? I don't see any joke in it, what is it?
Are you a programmer, that makes a living of it? That would be
at least ridiculous. You are not offending me. You are offending
ethics and morale. Any living morale has a very real social reason.
What would you say, if I'd wish you with all my heart on your job
to meet persons with the morale you suggested on your daily
business matters? Would you find this a kind act of me? See.
You know, I find Bill Gates a criminal, but I would't even do the devil
and steal from him to justify his deeds.
Just the less to spoil upright people like McNeel's.

steff

Thomas Lake wrote:

> Hay just joking. :-) Sorry if I offended anyone.
>
> smb wrote:
>
> > Thomas Lake wrote:
> >
> > > Well there are other ways of getting it......cough...chock ...........
> > >
> >
> > ...... and you ain't no friend of mine.
> >
> > smb
> >
> > > Alex Magidow wrote:
> > >
> > > > smb wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You have a misunderstanding here. If your'e a full time student, you are
eligible
> > > > > for the educational buy. I cite:
> > > > > "The single-user educational license at $195
> > > >
> > > > still steep for me...but one day, perhaps I shall purchase it. Though I am a
hobbiest.
> > > >
> > > > > is for
> > > > >                                 students, faculty, and schools. It is the
complete
> > > > >                                 commercial product and license with a
special
> > > > >                                 educational price. Students and educators
are
> > > > >                                 encouraged to use Rhino commercially. A
single-user
> > > > >                                 license includes: a CD, a 550-page 4-color
user's
> > > > >                                 guide, and a mouse pad. "
> > > > > Check out http://www.rhino3d.com/
> > > > > . If you find any modeler with the same wealth of features and ease of
handling
> > > > > for this price, you can have my copy.
> > > > > Not that there would need to be a mentioning of any other prog, but I did
check
> > > > > geometique yesterday, and though I like the approach, even towards the user,
> > > > > it's a snail. Rhino is bloody fast too. I run a celeron 500 with no special
graphics
> > > > >
> > > > > card (millenium 1!, 2mb) and sometimes HANDLE polygons with +300k. If I'd
try
> > > > > that with geometique, I really could have a cup of coffee before it would
turn
> > > > > around once.
> > > >
> > > > Well, remember it is in early ALPHA, not even beta yet. And for an alpha, it
is very
> > > > functional. And its price is very good, too.
> > > >
> > > > > Check also out the ng, server mcneel (204.177.179.20), name is rhino.
> > > > > If you buy, you can download the current beta, that has OpenGL support and
> > > > > extensive surface curvature analysis tools, like mirroring etc.
> > > > > The support and response with the ng is second to none, except, ok, Moray
and
> > > > > POV where probably the only predecessors of apps that underwent a similar
> > > > > history shaped by their users. Rhino had a 2 year open beta before they sold
the
> > > > > first copy! Can you believe that? Ok, ok, all brakes on. Rhino rulz!
> > > > >
> > > > > steff
> > > > >
> > > > > Alex Magidow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Actually, my price range, being a full time high school student with no
income
> > > > > > save allowances, $700 is a bit out of my price range. Even teh discount
version,
> > > > > > at $400 is a bit high.
> > > > > > I was thinking either Geometique or AC3D or Elasticity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > smb wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alex Magidow wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > A POV/Moray export to .raw!!!!I CAN SEE THE
LIGHT!!!YAYAAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Now, just to find some good programs for importing those formats...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How about Rhino?
> > > > > > > <g>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > steff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cristian Ramirez wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I am exporting some of my Moray 3.1 works to *.raw and then *.3ds
thanks
> > > > > > > > > to the export feature of the standalone version of Polyray (1.8a).
> > > > > > > > > Could you implement this feature (without changing every texture
name :)
> > > > > > > > > in the plug-in?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------+
> > > > > > > > > |        Cristian Ramirez        |
> > > > > > > > > | mailto:ram### [at] entelchilenet |
> > > > > > > > > |                                |
> > > > > > > > > |    Traslavina 352 Dept. 205    |
> > > > > > > > > |          Vina del Mar          |
> > > > > > > > > |             CHILE              |
> > > > > > > > > +--------------------------------+
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
> > > > > > > >       MJ Engh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
> > > > > >       MJ Engh
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
> > > >       MJ Engh

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