Alex Magidow wrote:

> smb wrote:
>
> > You have a misunderstanding here. If your'e a full time student, you are eligible
> > for the educational buy. I cite:
> > "The single-user educational license at $195
>
> still steep for me...but one day, perhaps I shall purchase it. Though I am a
hobbiest.
>

Well - raytracing and modelling might not be the same. Rhino's aim is the fun at the
form.

Someone who spends 80% of his ambition at the scene and it's idea might need other
tools than someone who loves the shape of THE thing. To be able to handcode for
POV, macro's etc included, in a texteditor is maybe on another road to skills. But
someone

going for modelling..

> > is for
> >                                 students, faculty, and schools. It is the complete
> >                                 commercial product and license with a special
> >                                 educational price. Students and educators are
> >                                 encouraged to use Rhino commercially. A
single-user
> >                                 license includes: a CD, a 550-page 4-color user's
> >                                 guide, and a mouse pad. "
> > Check out http://www.rhino3d.com/
> > . If you find any modeler with the same wealth of features and ease of handling
> > for this price, you can have my copy.
> > Not that there would need to be a mentioning of any other prog, but I did check
> > geometique yesterday, and though I like the approach, even towards the user,
> > it's a snail. Rhino is bloody fast too. I run a celeron 500 with no special
graphics
> >
> > card (millenium 1!, 2mb) and sometimes HANDLE polygons with +300k. If I'd try
> > that with geometique, I really could have a cup of coffee before it would turn
> > around once.
>
> Well, remember it is in early ALPHA, not even beta yet. And for an alpha, it is very
> functional.

Yup. But the engine for handling the matrice data should be basically setup, or it
wouldn't
be efficient, to let having been grown the app to that stage.
I've seen what huzzle it is, to shuffle structure of an app for a major remake.
You should download the demo of Rhino and try it. The viewport handling is a go-cart.

> And its price is very good, too.

May be. But frankly, if it be 50 or 100$, the difference is a joke. Hobby or not. If I
could get such a program and would have to forget my stomache for a month, so what?
There step by and stay enough SoftImage, Maya, Lightwave, Alias and what not
(let alone the semi-professional hobbiists of 3dmax) user's, say, eh, what, oops, etc,
and
-
have a look at the gallery.

smb

>
> > Check also out the ng, server mcneel (204.177.179.20), name is rhino.
> > If you buy, you can download the current beta, that has OpenGL support and
> > extensive surface curvature analysis tools, like mirroring etc.
> > The support and response with the ng is second to none, except, ok, Moray and
> > POV where probably the only predecessors of apps that underwent a similar
> > history shaped by their users. Rhino had a 2 year open beta before they sold the
> > first copy! Can you believe that? Ok, ok, all brakes on. Rhino rulz!
> >
> > steff
> >
> > Alex Magidow wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, my price range, being a full time high school student with no income
> > > save allowances, $700 is a bit out of my price range. Even teh discount version,
> > > at $400 is a bit high.
> > > I was thinking either Geometique or AC3D or Elasticity.
> > >
> > > smb wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alex Magidow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A POV/Moray export to .raw!!!!I CAN SEE THE LIGHT!!!YAYAAYAYAYAYAYA!!!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, just to find some good programs for importing those formats...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > How about Rhino?
> > > > <g>
> > > >
> > > > steff
> > > >
> > > > > Cristian Ramirez wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I am exporting some of my Moray 3.1 works to *.raw and then *.3ds thanks
> > > > > > to the export feature of the standalone version of Polyray (1.8a).
> > > > > > Could you implement this feature (without changing every texture name :)
> > > > > > in the plug-in?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance
> > > > > >
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> > > > > > |          Vina del Mar          |
> > > > > > |             CHILE              |
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> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
> > > > >       MJ Engh
> > >
> > > --
> > > Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
> > >       MJ Engh
>
> --
> Given a lever long enough, one can move the world with little force
>       MJ Engh

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