Dan Connelly wrote:
> 
> Clearly Bill is wrong.  But the question is highly nontrivial.
> Consider a photograph -- must I seek permission of all those
> who have proprietary material captured in the image?  Is
> a raytracing different than a photograph?
> 
> It isn't at all obvious to me there is a problem with using
> commercial logos in tracings.  I would say if a photograph
> of the same scene is okay, the tracing should be okay.  Would a photograph
> of a coke can be permissible?
> 
> Dan

I think the laws of protection are for cicumstances where
profitability are concerned. In the case of the i.r.t.c
where the entrant has the oppertunity to win a prize
with real world value by using trademarked material is
in fact in violation of the intent of the law. To use such
material for ones own use is probably permissable.

I mentioned the case of Disney and the day care center but
there is another even more valid example of using such materials
without permission. That would be the movie industry. In every
scene of a movie where tradmarked goods are shown on screen
there is an extremely large staff of people envolved with
making sure permission is granted by the owner of the materials
in question.

-- 
Ken Tyler

tyl### [at] pacbellnet

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