Chris Cason wrote:
> POV-Ray's windows code hails from the Windows 95 days 

Just to be clear, I didn't intend to be critical. I was merely 
explaining what the problem was likely to be with Vista. It tries to 
compensate for old programs that stick per-user config data in a 
per-machine location, and it's very confusing the way it does it, 
because it essentially lies to the old program about where the file 
actually is.

-- 
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     His kernel fu is strong.
     He studied at the Shao Linux Temple.

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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> No, certainly not. An official response does not exist!

Let me ask this question differently... has anyone been able to get the
animation options to work with POV-Ray running under Vista?  I don't want
to waste my time trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed.

I let me work PC (which still has XP) render overnight and I made this:

http://www.wwwmwww.com/images/logo1.gif

My home PC should be much faster but it has Vista and I currently can't get
it to use any of the animation options.

Thanks,
Carl

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Hi Carl,

I just got POV-Ray 3.61c to do animations under Vista (Home Premium here).
Here's what I did, hope it works for you also:
Go to the directory where PORay was installed, enter the "bin" subdirectory,
right click on "pvengine.exe" and choose "Properties".
Under the "Compatibility" tab, mark the checkbox for "Disable visual 
themes",
then click teh OK button.
That did the trick for me.

HTH

Eudy

"Carl" <car### [at] semisouthcom> wrote in message 
news:web.4628c692892b732070dc520d0@news.povray.org...
> Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
>> No, certainly not. An official response does not exist!
>
> Let me ask this question differently... has anyone been able to get the
> animation options to work with POV-Ray running under Vista?  I don't want
> to waste my time trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed.
>
> I let me work PC (which still has XP) render overnight and I made this:
>
> http://www.wwwmwww.com/images/logo1.gif
>
> My home PC should be much faster but it has Vista and I currently can't 
> get
> it to use any of the animation options.
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
>

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"Eudy Silva" <eud### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Hi Carl,
>
> I just got POV-Ray 3.61c to do animations under Vista (Home Premium here).
> Here's what I did, hope it works for you also:
> Go to the directory where PORay was installed, enter the "bin" subdirectory,
> right click on "pvengine.exe" and choose "Properties".
> Under the "Compatibility" tab, mark the checkbox for "Disable visual
> themes",
> then click teh OK button.
> That did the trick for me.
>
> HTH
>
> Eudy

THANK YOU!!!!  I have POV-Ray 3.6.1c and I've got Vista Ultimate.  Before I
saw your post I uninstalled POV-Ray and reinstalled it again.  This time I
installed it to:

C:UsersCarlPOV-Ray for Windows v3.6

(There are a couple back slashes in there that I don't expect to show up
when thos post goes through... not sure why.)

I can now edit and save the ini file without having to run notepad as an
administrator.  However I still couldn't use any of the animation options
without POV-Ray just coming back and saying (Not Responding).  I had ran
POV-Ray as an adminstrator and I changed the compatability tab to windows xp
sp2.  Neither had any effect.  If I tried both together I never got the (Not
Responding) message but it did hang up.  I then unselected the windows xp
sp2 compatability option and tried your "Disable visual themes" option and
it WORKED!!!  Nothing even had to be ran as an administrator.  I don't have
a clue why that worked but it did and I'm happy.

Is this a bug I should report?

Thank you again,
Carl

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Hi Carl,

Good to know that it worked for you too!
I had also tried, previously, to run pvengine.exe in compatibility
with XP SP2 and it failed to do animations.

I wouldn't say it is a bug in POV-Ray, better call it an incompatibility
with Vista's new themes features. Anyway, it is something the developers
(great guys, aren't they?) should know about.

Regarding the missing backslahes, guess that doubling them will
work (seems it looks like the C language, in which a backslash introduces
an escape sequence).
Let's try:
C:\\Program Files\\POV-Ray for Windows v3.6\\bin\\pvengine.exe
http:\\\\www.povray.org (I typed 4 backslashes here)

OK! So, to get this \\ you have to type this \\\\

Regards

Eudy

"Carl" <car### [at] semisouthcom> wrote in message 
news:web.462d73a7892b73208f2f42670@news.povray.org...
> "Eudy Silva" <eud### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> I just got POV-Ray 3.61c to do animations under Vista (Home Premium 
>> here).
>> Here's what I did, hope it works for you also:
>> Go to the directory where PORay was installed, enter the "bin" 
>> subdirectory,
>> right click on "pvengine.exe" and choose "Properties".
>> Under the "Compatibility" tab, mark the checkbox for "Disable visual
>> themes",
>> then click teh OK button.
>> That did the trick for me.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Eudy
>
> THANK YOU!!!!  I have POV-Ray 3.6.1c and I've got Vista Ultimate.  Before 
> I
> saw your post I uninstalled POV-Ray and reinstalled it again.  This time I
> installed it to:
>
> C:UsersCarlPOV-Ray for Windows v3.6
>
> (There are a couple back slashes in there that I don't expect to show up
> when thos post goes through... not sure why.)
>
> I can now edit and save the ini file without having to run notepad as an
> administrator.  However I still couldn't use any of the animation options
> without POV-Ray just coming back and saying (Not Responding).  I had ran
> POV-Ray as an adminstrator and I changed the compatability tab to windows 
> xp
> sp2.  Neither had any effect.  If I tried both together I never got the 
> (Not
> Responding) message but it did hang up.  I then unselected the windows xp
> sp2 compatability option and tried your "Disable visual themes" option and
> it WORKED!!!  Nothing even had to be ran as an administrator.  I don't 
> have
> a clue why that worked but it did and I'm happy.
>
> Is this a bug I should report?
>
> Thank you again,
> Carl
>
>
>

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Hmm, seems the backslash stuff only applies if you're using the web 
interface of the newsgroups.
If using a mail/news client, just type normally. No need to double type the 
backslash.

Eudy


"Eudy Silva" <eud### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message 
news:462e2574@news.povray.org...
> Hi Carl,
>
> Good to know that it worked for you too!
> I had also tried, previously, to run pvengine.exe in compatibility
> with XP SP2 and it failed to do animations.
>
> I wouldn't say it is a bug in POV-Ray, better call it an incompatibility
> with Vista's new themes features. Anyway, it is something the developers
> (great guys, aren't they?) should know about.
>
> Regarding the missing backslahes, guess that doubling them will
> work (seems it looks like the C language, in which a backslash introduces
> an escape sequence).
> Let's try:
> C:\\Program Files\\POV-Ray for Windows v3.6\\bin\\pvengine.exe
> http:\\\\www.povray.org (I typed 4 backslashes here)
>
> OK! So, to get this \\ you have to type this \\\\
>
> Regards
>
> Eudy
>
> "Carl" <car### [at] semisouthcom> wrote in message 
> news:web.462d73a7892b73208f2f42670@news.povray.org...
>> "Eudy Silva" <eud### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> Hi Carl,
>>>
>>> I just got POV-Ray 3.61c to do animations under Vista (Home Premium 
>>> here).
>>> Here's what I did, hope it works for you also:
>>> Go to the directory where PORay was installed, enter the "bin" 
>>> subdirectory,
>>> right click on "pvengine.exe" and choose "Properties".
>>> Under the "Compatibility" tab, mark the checkbox for "Disable visual
>>> themes",
>>> then click teh OK button.
>>> That did the trick for me.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Eudy
>>
>> THANK YOU!!!!  I have POV-Ray 3.6.1c and I've got Vista Ultimate.  Before 
>> I
>> saw your post I uninstalled POV-Ray and reinstalled it again.  This time 
>> I
>> installed it to:
>>
>> C:UsersCarlPOV-Ray for Windows v3.6
>>
>> (There are a couple back slashes in there that I don't expect to show up
>> when thos post goes through... not sure why.)
>>
>> I can now edit and save the ini file without having to run notepad as an
>> administrator.  However I still couldn't use any of the animation options
>> without POV-Ray just coming back and saying (Not Responding).  I had ran
>> POV-Ray as an adminstrator and I changed the compatability tab to windows 
>> xp
>> sp2.  Neither had any effect.  If I tried both together I never got the 
>> (Not
>> Responding) message but it did hang up.  I then unselected the windows xp
>> sp2 compatability option and tried your "Disable visual themes" option 
>> and
>> it WORKED!!!  Nothing even had to be ran as an administrator.  I don't 
>> have
>> a clue why that worked but it did and I'm happy.
>>
>> Is this a bug I should report?
>>
>> Thank you again,
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>
>

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I do not have Vista and I do not want to migrate to it in the near future.
So I can't help directly. However, why don't install Povray into another
folder? Create  a folder such as "c:program files2" or whatever and install
to there. As far as I know Vista guards only the folders c:windows and
c:program files.

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Hi Carl,

I have found the same problem in my vista system. Vista by default protects
everything in the program files folder from being changed. The solution is
to copy the .ini file out of the program files directory, save it and copy
it back. It will ask permission to copy the file but after then it should
work fine.

Richard.

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In article <web.466561d8892b732026d840430@news.povray.org>, 
nomail@nomail says...
> Hi Carl,
> 
> I have found the same problem in my vista system. Vista by default protec
ts
> everything in the program files folder from being changed. The solution i
s
> to copy the .ini file out of the program files directory, save it and cop
y
> it back. It will ask permission to copy the file but after then it should
> work fine.
> 
Good idea to watch out of an even dumber behavior. I recently installed 
Neverwinter II. It saves game data, like saves, in .DAT files **in your 
user profile areas**. Not a big deal, except that Windows "cleanup" 
feature for recovering space sees .dat, leaps to the conclusion its some 
sort of temp file for an installer, and wipes all your save files out of 
existence. A problem that would have never come up, if I had a) 
remembered to change the location where those files get saved to the 
"larger" partition, or b) had the fracking option to tell Windows when I 
installed it, to put them there in the first place. I mean, what nimrod, 
other than Windows developers, puts *user data* in the same fracking 
partition as the main OS, boot loader and every other component that you 
need to upgrade regularly, may need to be reinstalled, and is most 
likely to get infected, deleted, mangled or just filled up, until your 
don't have any space left to put anything any more?

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    call functional_code()
  else
    call crash_windows();
}

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"Carl" <car### [at] semisouthcom> wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > Where are you telling it to write the resulting image files?
>
> Well I assume the animation files would be save the same place the still
> images are placed.  That is the location of the ".pov" file itself.  As
> seen here:
>
> http://www.wwwmwww.com/images/VistaError3.png
>
> that is J:logo which is a directory on my jump drive.
>
> After some most testing last night the following command line does work:
>
> +H800 +W800 +FN +A -J
>
> So I assume its something with the animation parameters that is locking it
> up.
>
> The main reason I got a Core Duo was to speed up POV-Ray and now it doesn't
> want to cooperate.
>
> I'll do some more testing with changing some of the animation parameters one
> at a time tonight and I suspose I can always render just one frame at a time
> but I've just never had these problems with POV-Ray before.
>
> Help,
> Carl
>
> P.S.  Why don't back slashes show up in these posts?  For example I typed
> one between J: and logo above.

I had the same problem with not being able to edit .INI files. I just logged on
as admin then right clicked on the .INI went to property and then security.
Then  noticed that for my user account (even though listed as an admin)did not
have all permissions set. So i turned them all on and then hit apply, this then
let me edit any INIs

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