"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:3f5cc12f@news.povray.org:

> http://www.daylongraphics.com/other/povray/patches/index.htm
>
> My problem was with an early version.  I have not tested the latest
> releases.

   Hmm, thanks, it looks enticing and helpful.

    ~Steve~


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ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in
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>> in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:
>> 
>> I have been experiencing long delays when launching POV for windows, it
>> take anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds before it has "loaded" and
>> is ready to use. 
 
 
> switch of your virus monitor / scanner, at least that what causes the 
> startup delay on my machine. You also wan't to switch virusscanners of 
> when generating / parsing large mesh and when using radiosity and
> photons. 

Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.

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Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:

> Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.
> 

Isn't it possible to disable your virusscanner without rebooting? I do it 
all the time.

Ingo

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ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in
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> in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:
> 
>> Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.
>> 
> 
> Isn't it possible to disable your virusscanner without rebooting? I do
> it all the time.

Yes it is.

One thing I know for sure is that on a fresh boot, after windows has
finished scratching and has become calm, if I start POV it takes 2 minutes
to load. 

So I will disable AV and try loading POV to see if it has any impact.

Good idea!

Thanks

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Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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You can check this too:
1) You can type CHKDSK /F, on Start->Run... if asked (Y/N) type Y, if
you suspect from HD hardware failure add an /R to the the command
line to check the entire surface of the disk, reboot to see if your file
system is OK.
2) At least Service Pack 2 has to be installed of your Windows 2000, i
recommend you install the latest, Service Pack 4, from Microsoft.com, is
about 128.8 MB. This could improve your system speed.
3) Check for virus. Extra disk activity on all files of your PC can be
caused by a virus infection, Make sure your anti virus is up to date and
to make sure you can check your HD on a virus-free system, sometimes
when you have a virus the AV can't get it out from the system.
4) Erase temporary files, from Internet Browser(s) and Windows 2000, 
then, if you can, Defrag it.
5) Get a good Disk Cache Utility, i'm using CacheBoost 4 Professional
and it has improved my Windows 2000 performance, you can Download the
Enterprise version if you have HEAVY WORKLOADS at 
http://www.systweak.com/ or at 
http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=cacheboost&tg=dl-2001&search=+Go%21+. 

This program also optimizes usage of memory, defrags it, and unloads
unnecessary assigned memory and you have fine tune options from Tune 
Windows button.

If none of this help, call tech support and have your system check.
God bless you and help you solve your problem.
Best Regards.

Saul

Marc Champagne wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>I have been experiencing long delays when launching POV for windows, it
>take anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds before it has "loaded" and
>is ready to use. 
>
>During this time there is lots of HD activity (scratching).
>
>The HD's are regularly defragged.
>
>For what it's worth, I have Win 2000, 1 gigahertz, 512k ram, plenty of
>disk space.
>
>This happens with and without scenes loaded and is usually on first
>launch after being closed for a while, subsequent loads are quick.
>
>What does POV do on startup that would explain all this scratching?
>
>Thanks
>
>  
>

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Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in
news:3f5f37f0@news.povray.org: 

>   You can check this too:
> 1) You can type CHKDSK /F, on Start->Run... if asked (Y/N) type Y, if
> you suspect from HD hardware failure add an /R to the the command
> line to check the entire surface of the disk, reboot to see if your file
> system is OK.
> 2) At least Service Pack 2 has to be installed of your Windows 2000, i
> recommend you install the latest, Service Pack 4, from Microsoft.com, is
> about 128.8 MB. This could improve your system speed.
> 3) Check for virus. Extra disk activity on all files of your PC can be
> caused by a virus infection, Make sure your anti virus is up to date and
> to make sure you can check your HD on a virus-free system, sometimes
> when you have a virus the AV can't get it out from the system.
> 4) Erase temporary files, from Internet Browser(s) and Windows 2000, 
> then, if you can, Defrag it.
> 5) Get a good Disk Cache Utility, i'm using CacheBoost 4 Professional
> and it has improved my Windows 2000 performance, you can Download the
> Enterprise version if you have HEAVY WORKLOADS at 
> http://www.systweak.com/ or at 
> http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=cacheboost&tg=dl-2001&search=+G
> o%21+. 
> 
> This program also optimizes usage of memory, defrags it, and unloads
> unnecessary assigned memory and you have fine tune options from Tune 
> Windows button.
> 
> If none of this help, call tech support and have your system check.
> God bless you and help you solve your problem.
> Best Regards.

Thanks for your suggestions, but all these steps are not needed as they
are always taken care of or up to date.

I will look into your cache utility though...

The actual problem seems to be norton anti-virus.

Thanks

Marc

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Hello again, it occurred to me that could be this too:<br>
<br>
1) Another cause of delay could be that you have a FAT32 File System as
your C: partition, and you have installed Office 95, 97 or 2000, the
problem is those versions Installs a Indexing program (You can see it
in the control panel, as an icon which shows a yellow ray in front of a
pair of black binoculars, its name is FastFind), it indexes ALL files
on your FAT32 partitions, to access files quickly, BUT to do so, it has
to index the files which takes a lot of time and work for the PC and
specially from the disk, this causes retard on all operations that
require disk access including loading Windows and programs, this index
is a few megs (4-6 MB) in size but it has to be loaded to memory so
this also takes time, this is maybe the cause that you feel a little
delay when you load POV-Ray for the first time. Note that this index is
constantly being updated by its memory resident creator, plus, if
windows unloads it and/or swaps it to to the page file it has to be
re-read it, that's why POV-Ray does not load fast when you reload it
after a long while. Said all this you should disable the program by
loading the Control Panel applet and select on the File menu "Close and
Stop", TWICE (is a Microsoft Program), and delete all the indexes..<br>
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2) To avoid this and to have a more secure and fast partition you can
converted it to NTFS File System, the default File System of Windows
2000/XP, with the following text typed on Start->Run... : <code><b>convert</b>
<i>C</i>: <b>/fs:ntfs</b><big><font face="Times New Roman">, and
follow the instructions.<br>
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Good luck.<br>
Saul Luizaga.<br>
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> 2) To avoid this and to have a more secure and fast partition you can 
> converted it to NTFS File System, the default File System of Windows 
> 2000/XP, with the following text typed on Start->Run... : |*convert* 
> /C/: */fs:ntfs*, and follow the instructions.

I think that I should warn you : when windows (98, XP or anyone else) 
doesn't start, I use the Knoppix distribution (runable on a CD) on the 
"sick" PC in order to connect it to another (like a laptop) ; the online 
requirements are :
- CD ROM drive, and a BIOS able to boot on it
- a recognized ethernet card
- a LAN cable
And I'm able to cut/copy/delete/edit all the files I want.
BUT the hard disk must be working with a FAT32 to be automatically 
configured.

That's why I don't convert my FAT to NTFS.

Bye

--
Brulebois Cyril
Dijon, Brest & Paris
France

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When the start-up of a program seems too slow, I think of a lack of RAM. 
  You can have a look through the registry :
...\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
to find the programs loaded at start-up. Sometimes you find programs 
that are loaded without your knowing it and you can clean it if they are 
not meant to be run.

Best regards.

PS : Dialog in French possible if you are French-speaking, Marc

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Brulebois, Cyril
Dijon, Brest & Paris
France

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