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From: ABX
Subject: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 10 Oct 2002 12:46:36
Message: <buabqucdv7551apfmig551u37st26hsths@4ax.com>
PoPOV - Patching of POV - is supposed to collect all reasonably patches
included in patches repository. Currently available for DOS and Windows
consoles but other platforms planned. Sample files attached. Go download:

  http://abx.art.pl/pov/popov/

Any feedback ?

(AFAIK, sites from my host currently moves between servers so there can be
some temporary breaks in working, sorry)

ABX


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 10 Oct 2002 14:02:33
Message: <3DA5C0B6.A4EA7DB3@gmx.de>
ABX wrote:
> 
> PoPOV - Patching of POV - is supposed to collect all reasonably patches
> included in patches repository. Currently available for DOS and Windows
> consoles but other platforms planned. Sample files attached. Go download:
> 
>   http://abx.art.pl/pov/popov/
> 
> Any feedback ?
> 

Citing from the page:

"push any responsibility for bad working to every one named Popov involved
in POV communiuty ;-)"

- i guess Peter will be 'not amused' ;-)

"Enviroment for DOS compilation under DJGPP 2.3 with GCC 3.2 compiler
including correct 8.3 names for all files from POV and involved libraries"

- sounds like an awful lot of work introducing nothing but incompatibility
with other POV-Ray versions.  I would strongly suggest you switch to a
more decent system - this would simplify things for both you and others
(when possibly using source files from you in their own compilations).

Apart from that it looks nice.

Christoph 

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 10 Oct 2002 14:36:17
Message: <Xns92A3D2677BE1Eseed7@povray.org>
in news:buabqucdv7551apfmig551u37st26hsths@4ax.com ABX wrote:

> Go download:
> 
>   http://abx.art.pl/pov/popov/

Ah thanks, time to play with splines


> Any feedback ?
> 

Not yet.

Ingo


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 02:36:20
Message: <3hrcqukq4jsqjeon217557u7pac2gnn552@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:02:30 +0200, Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> "push any responsibility for bad working to every one named Popov involved
> in POV communiuty ;-)"
>
> - i guess Peter will be 'not amused' ;-)

I hope :-)

> "Enviroment for DOS compilation under DJGPP 2.3 with GCC 3.2 compiler
> including correct 8.3 names for all files from POV and involved libraries"
>
> - sounds like an awful lot of work introducing nothing but incompatibility
> with other POV-Ray versions.

No. The only file in POV-Ray necessary to have short name was benchmark.cpp.
Not a big deal. And only library not compatible with 8.3 filenames was libtiff
so not a big deal either. I don't plan to distribute sources of libraries so
only incompatibility can be on mentioned benchmark.cpp. Further djgpp
compilations works fine with long filenames on Win 95/98 but fails on NT
becouse of NT's implementation of shell.

> I would strongly suggest you switch to a
> more decent system - this would simplify things for both you and others
> (when possibly using source files from you in their own compilations).

Well, I on NT4 I will prepare multiplatform compilations. Just have to
complete setup of whole multicompiler enviroment. I wanted to build shared
tree for sources and taht's why mentioned note in "What's new".

> Apart from that it looks nice.

Thanks. Have you tried it ?

ABX


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 03:27:26
Message: <i9vcqu4vmbgsu648mei3a7g7fplq7chrq6@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:44:14 +0200, ABX <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote:

>Any feedback ?

To paraphrase Hallmark, "Great project, greatly named!"


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 03:28:58
Message: <gbvcqugjrh144414ggtnrdpqa6b10ufm98@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 20:02:30 +0200, Christoph Hormann
<chr### [at] gmxde> wrote:

>Citing from the page:
>
>"push any responsibility for bad working to every one named Popov involved
>in POV communiuty ;-)"
>
>- i guess Peter will be 'not amused' ;-)

As I've said quite a lot of times, Po-POV means "more POV" in
Bulgarian, so I think the name fits the project well. In the spirit of
POV-Ray, I will not require royalties on my or my grand-grandfather's
behalf :)


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
TAG      e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 04:23:47
Message: <3DA68A92.82C9CCB@gmx.de>
ABX wrote:
> 
> > Apart from that it looks nice.
> 
> Thanks. Have you tried it ?

No, since i have no use for a dos version the source code would be much
more useful for me.

Christoph

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TransSkin and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/  
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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 04:33:14
Message: <1t2dqucrk68kvj3iq2jjr7lf2f69lat7t6@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:23:46 +0200, Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> No, since i have no use for a dos version the source code would be much
> more useful for me.

I will release it soon.

BTW: Your recent post in povray.programming reminded me about issue not listed
in my "to do" but already concerned - documentation. You have started such
discussion some time ago. There is no discussion what format for sample files:
POV SDL. There is no discussion what format for source files: C++. But what
format for documentation ?

ABX


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 04:42:03
Message: <3DA68ED8.887C3B1@gmx.de>
ABX wrote:
> 
> BTW: Your recent post in povray.programming reminded me about issue not listed
> in my "to do" but already concerned - documentation. You have started such
> discussion some time ago. There is no discussion what format for sample files:
> POV SDL. There is no discussion what format for source files: C++. But what
> format for documentation ?

Ingo suggested docbook which seems a good idea, but since i don't know
much about it and also don't have the time to do much research in that
concern right now i did not pursue it any further.  If anyone can supply a
framework for this including a small tutorial how one can document own
patches this would be really great.  I think Meal (from the french POV
community) already did some work in that concern.

Christoph

-- 
POV-Ray tutorials, IsoWood include,                 
TransSkin and more: http://www.tu-bs.de/~y0013390/  
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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Announce: PoPOV - first build
Date: 11 Oct 2002 04:55:52
Message: <cb4dquoaa5ln98ba7he0jgmngg268afrr7@4ax.com>
On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 10:42:00 +0200, Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> Ingo suggested docbook which seems a good idea

I will test it during weekend.

ABX


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