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From: Steve
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 30 Nov 2002 10:18:59
Message: <slrnauhlmo.c2o.steve@zeropps.org.uk>
On 28 Nov 2002 03:42:55 -0500, Warp wrote:
 
>   This is the .emacs I have configured for myself over the years. It will
> work with GNU Emacs 21.* (currently I use 21.2.1). It has a couple of things
> which won't work in Emacs 20.* (and there really isn't any reason to use
> the older version anyways).

I've just d/l'd the latest stable version 21.2.92.  I like the syntax 
highlighting when run with -nw, but will have to find out how to get it
to shade a selection when run in an exterm (I mean using CTRL-SPACE, as
a marker and then shade the text to wherever I take the cursor).  And I'll
also have to change some colours in pov-mode, I use a dark background for 
the majority of my xterms/rxvts so black is quite difficult to see. 

But I do like the new version, and the tool bar is handy when run in 
new window mode, particularly for new users, but I think for my own use
I'll be finding a way of turning the tool bar off, it takes up too much 
space and is too bright.  

PS: the latest release of Mozilla 1.2 has text only buttons for the tool
    bar, something I missed quite badly from my Netscape days. 

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 30 Nov 2002 14:56:56
Message: <3de91808@news.povray.org>
Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
> But I do like the new version, and the tool bar is handy when run in 
> new window mode, particularly for new users, but I think for my own use
> I'll be finding a way of turning the tool bar off, it takes up too much 
> space and is too bright.  

  If you cared to look at my .emacs, you'll see that it turns off the
toolbar.

-- 
#macro M(A,N,D,L)plane{-z,-9pigment{mandel L*9translate N color_map{[0rgb x]
[1rgb 9]}scale<D,D*3D>*1e3}rotate y*A*8}#end M(-3<1.206434.28623>70,7)M(
-1<.7438.1795>1,20)M(1<.77595.13699>30,20)M(3<.75923.07145>80,99)// - Warp -


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 30 Nov 2002 18:23:40
Message: <slrnauie43.d0k.steve@zeropps.org.uk>
On 30 Nov 2002 14:56:56 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Steve <ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet> wrote:
>> But I do like the new version, and the tool bar is handy when run in 
>> new window mode, particularly for new users, but I think for my own use
>> I'll be finding a way of turning the tool bar off, it takes up too much 
>> space and is too bright.  
> 
>   If you cared to look at my .emacs, you'll see that it turns off the
> toolbar.
> 
Thanks, I'll have a look, and I've found the remedy for marking text:

(transient-mark-mode t)

Only works when navigation with emacs kesy, ie if you set-mark and then
move about with the arrow keys the selection is not hilighted, but is
in you do stuff like C-n C-p etc. 

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From: Artis Rozentals
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 02:55:35
Message: <pan.2002.12.01.07.55.35.86316@aaa.apollo.lv>
> Yes there can be way to go around this, but when I use POV I don't want to
> spend half a day learning how emacs work.

You expect to learn emacs in "half a day"?!?!


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From: fabien Henon
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 06:32:45
Message: <3de9f35d@news.povray.org>
Artis Rozentals wrote:
>>Yes there can be way to go around this, but when I use POV I don't want to
>>spend half a day learning how emacs work.
> 
> 
> You expect to learn emacs in "half a day"?!?!

That's exaclty the point. I want to use POV and write scripts and not 
spend that time learning how to use emacs. The point is : Emacs is not 
user friendly. When you want to drive your car, you don't need to know 
how the engine works ( when the plugs sparks, when they spark, how fuel 
is injected,...). It helps when it breaks down or for maintenance. All 
you want is go from one place to another.

Besides I wanted to get emacs to work, I did not managed to make it work 
. In facts it worked even less than xemacs does. I don't even have 
syntax highlighting when typing and the insert menu disappear -> I 
removed both of them and I gained 75 Mb on space on my hard drive.

Fabien HENON


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 09:12:27
Message: <3dea18ca@news.povray.org>
I think I'll stop posting my .emacs to this group as it seems that nobody
cares about it anyways.

-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: fabien Henon
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 09:38:06
Message: <3dea1ece@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
I did try your .emacs file, I changed the path /home/warp...( I forgot) 
to /home/fabien/lib/emacs/pov-mode.el.

Then I ran 'emacs fond.pov &'

I got emacs started with a black background, then white, then the file 
fond.pov got opened without syntax highlighting.
I spent 15 minutes to try to find where to activate the syntax hightlight.


I did not manage, I got enough of it and I removed emacs from my computer.


>   I think I'll stop posting my .emacs to this group as it seems that nobody
> cares about it anyways.
>


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 14:26:01
Message: <3dea6248@news.povray.org>
fabien Henon <fab### [at] caramailcom> wrote:
> I got emacs started with a black background, then white, then the file 
> fond.pov got opened without syntax highlighting.

  By any chance you are not using KDE?

-- 
#macro N(D)#if(D>99)cylinder{M()#local D=div(D,104);M().5,2pigment{rgb M()}}
N(D)#end#end#macro M()<mod(D,13)-6mod(div(D,13)8)-3,10>#end blob{
N(11117333955)N(4254934330)N(3900569407)N(7382340)N(3358)N(970)}//  - Warp -


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From: fabien Henon
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 17:11:20
Message: <3dea8908@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> fabien Henon <fab### [at] caramailcom> wrote:
> 
>>I got emacs started with a black background, then white, then the file 
>>fond.pov got opened without syntax highlighting.
> 
> 
>   By any chance you are not using KDE?
> 
Yes I am


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From: Steve
Subject: Re: What is the fuss about emacs ?
Date: 1 Dec 2002 19:10:53
Message: <slrnaul981.l17.steve@zeropps.org.uk>
On 1 Dec 2002 09:12:27 -0500, Warp wrote:
>   I think I'll stop posting my .emacs to this group as it seems that nobody
> cares about it anyways.
> 

I found some bits quite useful, including the line to turn the tool bar
off, and the function for posting/inserting uuencoded files.  

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