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From: gregjohn
Subject: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 30 May 2009 08:15:00
Message: <web.4a2122ecdcab99f834d207310@news.povray.org>
Pixar's work was always the coolest to me because I thought it successfully
stood atop the "stylized" peak right before the Uncanny Valley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley


*micro spoiler alert*




There are dog crowd scenes in the movie.  They have one main character dog who
is very stylized in construction (and featured in the TV commercials).  But
there is a plot conflict between this dog and a crowd of other dogs, many of
which are much more photo-realistically constructed.

When there's one photo-realistic dog on the screen, emoting, it seems pretty
cool. But there are scenes when they show a dozen, and because they are
photorealistic, they look like zombies. I think there are both creepily
over-acting dogs and creepily wooden dogs in a few very short scenes in the
movie.


There was a young man who was something of a child prodigy in making character
animation with Hash Animation:Master.  He started out making some very cool
cartoony figures, but as his skill and the features of the software increased,
he made things more and more realistic. Eventually it got kind of creepy to see
a fully-furred male dog standing up.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 30 May 2009 14:02:37
Message: <4a2174bd$1@news.povray.org>
Which movie?

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Chambers


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 30 May 2009 17:15:00
Message: <web.4a21a0f89c6bab5934d207310@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> Which movie?
>
> --
> Chambers

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/up/


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 30 May 2009 17:58:45
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gregjohn wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
>> Which movie?
>>
>> --
>> Chambers
> 
> http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/up/

Given the collar, that may have been somewhat intentional. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   There's no CD like OCD, there's no CD I knoooow!


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From: JeffBTX
Subject: Re: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 31 May 2009 17:20:01
Message: <web.4a22f4749c6bab59838003e0@news.povray.org>
That link to the "Uncanny Valley" concept (Wikipedia) was interesting reading.

But I don't think it applies that much to artificial-animals (robotic or
virtual).

People would be creeped out by overly realistic robotic people. (Not me, though.
I WANT ONE!!! NOW!!! I would force it to make coffee for me. Maybe make dinner.
NOT pay the bills, though... THAT is creepy!).

I guarantee, though that if my cat confronted a robotic-cat from Uncanny Valley,
then fur IS going to fly - artificial fur. MY cat would win. Because at heart,
he is just a very small tiger. A killer who is only loyal to me. His ragged,
chewed up toy mice would testify to the fact.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Pixar finally slips into Uncanny Valley
Date: 1 Jun 2009 13:09:29
Message: <4a240b49@news.povray.org>
JeffBTX <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> That link to the "Uncanny Valley" concept (Wikipedia) was interesting reading.

  I think this is an excellent presentation about the subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKTAJBQSm10

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                                                          - Warp


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