On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:53:08 -0800, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>nemesis wrote:
>> Nothing is faster than C, some wise men said. ;)
>
>Assembler is.

I raise you "Machine code" :)
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     Stephen

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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message 
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> nemesis wrote:
>> Nothing is faster than C, some wise men said. ;)
>
> Assembler is.

ya beat me to it .....

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Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> Nothing is faster than C, some wise men said. ;)
> 
> Assembler is.

That's relative. ;)

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> It got to the point where I'd see a post from Warp saying that Haskell 
> sucks because of X, and I'd spent half an hour trying to come up with a 
> reason why X is false. It ceased to be about the truth, and about wanting 
> to be right. I *wanted* Haskell to be the best.
>
> But wanting something to be true doesn't make it true. And, unfortunately 
> for me, Warp is right, as usual. Haskell sucks. And no amount of words 
> from me is going to change it. My pride and joy actually sucks, and I 
> can't do anything about it.

It's not rare for programmers to take something they like and try to prove 
to everyone else that it's the best. You're not alone in doing that. You're 
doing two things here though:

 - Realizing that you made a mistake (good)
 - Telling yourself that you're hopeless because of it (bad).

Just because you may have lost some rationality by over-defending haskell 
doesn't mean that you've wasted your time learning it, or even that it's a 
bad language. You've gotta stop dragging yourself down like that. Identify 
your mistakes, learn from them, and move on. Haskell is still useful and 
you're better off for knowing it.

 - Slime
 [ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 03:17:15 -0800, Slime wrote:

> Why do we keep wasting time with this troll?

That's a good question, Slime.  I've been wondering that myself.

When someone comes into a community and has all the social graces of a 
retarded chicken on crack, takes time to personally insult people (see 
recent posts to me in p.b.i for some recent samples of his so-called 
"wit"), it seems that the community - or the community leadership - needs 
to step in.  Personally, I'd look for a way to ban his ass from here, but 
I know how difficult that can be and often that just feeds the troll and 
gives them more fuel.

Normally, I just ignore him.  I wish everyone else would do the same, 
maybe then, just maybe, he'd go away.  He's not "enlightened" or 
"enlightening", he's an annoyance not worth my time or effort.

Ignoring him is the most effective solution.

Jim

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:13:54 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> On the other hand, it seems that almost every forum I visit, I end up
> rubbing somebody up the wrong way. 

Welcome to the real world, Andrew.  You're not going to rub everyone the 
right way all the time.

> I see two possibilities:
> 
> - Everybody else on the Internet is an asshole.
> 
> - I'm an asshole.

There's a third possibility:  Some of the people in the world (and on the 
'net) are assholes, and you run into them from time to time.

Again, welcome to the real world.  There are assholes out there.  Best 
way of dealing with them is to ignore them.

Jim

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:28:24 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>> You're not an idiot, and I never thought you were.
> 
> Thank God somebody thinks so. Right now, I'm not sure *I* believe it any
> more.

Shit, man, I've never thought you were an idiot either.  Just because 
people disagree with you doesn't mean you're an idiot.  Only an idiot 
would think that! ;-)

(Note - I'm saying that HUMOROUSLY!  Sit back and laugh! ;-) )

Jim

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On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:36:03 +0000, Invisible wrote:

> What is it about me that makes so many different people think that I'm
> just an attention-seeking fool with a loud mouth who doesn't know what
> he's talking about? Several different people, in unrelated forums, have
> all independently come to the same conclusion. There must be a reason
> for this.

Yes, some people are assholes, and groups all over the place have 
different assholes.

Jim

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On 2/16/2009 12:48 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> I really thought Haskell was the be-all and end-all of everything. Being
> forced to admit that it is not is really painful.

Yeah, having to go through that really sucks.  But you know what?  You 
should really stop looking for the "be-all adn end-all" of *anything*. 
You won't find it; and, if you think you have, then you're in for a big 
disappointment.

> really does is reinforce your point: you must memorise what the compiler
> does and does not optimise to get good code.)

That's true of just about every other language out there, as well :)

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com

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>> On the other hand, it seems that almost every forum I visit, I end up
>> rubbing somebody up the wrong way. 
> 
> Welcome to the real world, Andrew.  You're not going to rub everyone the 
> right way all the time.
> 
>> I see two possibilities:
>>
>> - Everybody else on the Internet is an asshole.
>>
>> - I'm an asshole.
> 
> There's a third possibility:  Some of the people in the world (and on the 
> 'net) are assholes, and you run into them from time to time.
> 
> Again, welcome to the real world.  There are assholes out there.  Best 
> way of dealing with them is to ignore them.

That still doesn't explain why I'm the only one having this problem.

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