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On 2/20/2009 1:58 AM, Invisible wrote:
> Heh. Well, as you know, I've never really had "friends". However, that
> particular song spent months at or near the top of the UK charts. Still,
> the tune is probably more memorable than the actual words...
And when was the last time I paid attention to the UK charts?
I've never heard of either the band, or the song.
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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On 2/20/2009 1:08 AM, Invisible wrote:
> (Most of the replies mumbled something about "Usenet". I have no idea
> what that is or why that's relevant.)
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=usenet
People often think that NNTP = Usenet, which is not true (the POV
server, for instance, is specifically NOT a part of Usenet). However,
it IS true that NNTP and Usenet were created side by side.
Usenet is a big part of the Internet's history; I'd suggest you read up
on it a bit.
The problem with it now, of course, is that it's been taken over almost
entirely by spammers, trolls, and warez. Not to mention, you have to
have a 3-inch thick flame-retardant skin to frequent many groups, due to
the high aggressiveness of the participants.
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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>> (Most of the replies mumbled something about "Usenet". I have no idea
>> what that is or why that's relevant.)
>
> People often think that NNTP = Usenet, which is not true.
I see.
> The problem with it now, of course, is that it's been taken over almost
> entirely by spammers, trolls, and warez. Not to mention, you have to
> have a 3-inch thick flame-retardant skin to frequent many groups, due to
> the high aggressiveness of the participants.
Heh. Sometimes the Haskell list makes me feel a bit like that. (Although
it's certainly nowhere near as bad as it could be...)
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:08:09 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Somebody pointed out that a web-based forum forces you to use one
> specific UI - the web forum. On the other hand, NNTP can be used from
> *any* suitable client. It can also be easily archived and so forth.
> Which seems like a valid point to me.
>
> I'm still not understanding why NNTP isn't a valid solution...
In my experience, the usual reason change isn't a valid solution is
"because we're used to what we have".
So perhaps what they - or perhaps someone else - needs to set up a
gateway account using news.gmane.org. :-)
Jim
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:48:48 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Clique -- A close-knit, usually exclusionary, group.
>>
>> Oh. Right.
>>
>> How the heck do you pronounce that?
>
> Wikipedia claims it's /'kliːk/ (i.e, "kleek"). Obviously Wikipedia is
> never wrong.
FWIW, that's how I've heard it pronounced.
Jim
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On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:09:54 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>> Here, let me google that for you...
>>
>> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22one+dry+potato+inside%22
>> http://tinyurl.com/ck9wt6
>>
>> In either case, it's the second link.
>
> You needed Google for that? :-P
I'm melting! Oh, what a world!
Jim
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scott wrote:
> Sending private messages to other users is much easier, rather than the
> whole "oh you have to remove the xyzJF# and the notHere77 from my email
> address" palaver.
Sure you do. HTML gets scraped way more than NNTP does.
> And of course, you can access a web-based forum from any machine without
> having to install a client (although POV has a web interface for its
> NNTP server).
Name a popular OS that doesn't come with a newsgroup reader preinstalled.
Note that what you're saying is "any machine you're likely to use already
has a web browser installed on it." That doesn't mean you don't have to
install it. It's just already been done, much to the wailing and gnashing of
teeth of those who dislike IE.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Invisible wrote:
> (Most of the replies mumbled something about "Usenet". I have no idea
> what that is or why that's relevant.)
Usenet was the predecessor to NNTP from before TCP/IP.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
"Ouch ouch ouch!"
"What's wrong? Noodles too hot?"
"No, I have Chopstick Tunnel Syndrome."
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> (Most of the replies mumbled something about "Usenet". I have no idea
>> what that is or why that's relevant.)
>
> Usenet was the predecessor to NNTP from before TCP/IP.
...there was a time *before* TCP/IP?? O_O
*runs away*
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> So perhaps what they - or perhaps someone else - needs to set up a
> gateway account using news.gmane.org. :-)
It's already on Gmane.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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