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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 12:44:30
Message: <4867bbee@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> I'd say the same about the hack-and-slash style of RPG. You just have a
> variety of (mostly) melee weapons instead of a variety of guns and (often,
> not always) the hack-and-slash is 3rd person, not 1st.

> Believe me, if you try just hacking your way through Diable without
> thinking, you have a very dead character very quickly.

  The third-person game types which I have liked most are:

1) The Tomb Raider series: Puzzles, wall-climbing, acrobatics, some
   shooting (but not too much).

2) The Desperados series: Tactical puzzle-solving, but without fully going
   to the RTS category (which I find a bit boring). Gunfights are more of
   a puzzle-solving element than a real fighting element.

3) jRPGs: Tales of Eternia and Final Fantasy 8 are prominent examples.

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 13:21:51
Message: <4867c4af@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> >   What's a "hack and slash" game?

> You spend most of the game hacking through hordes on monsters.

  Btw, would, for example, the God of War series be considered "hack and
slash" games? (I own Chains of Olympus and have played it through.)

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 13:33:53
Message: <4867c781$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Anyways, the main element which keeps FPS games interesting is the
> skill factor.

I think what keeps them interesting for me is the story line. Sure, 
playing the whole thing thru on God mode makes it much less interesting, 
but if it's too hard[1], I don't feel I miss anything by God-ing over 
some areas.

[1] Or if the boss monsters irrationally become invulnerable at some 
point without external indication in order to progress the story. Yes, 
I'm looking at you, Half-life.

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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
  Helpful housekeeping hints:
   Check your feather pillows for holes
    before putting them in the washing machine.


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 13:40:00
Message: <web.4867c7f49e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> "bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
> news:web.486732e49e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org...
>
> >
> > So you don't know DiabloII?
> > Then you missed something.
>
> Know it and played it. Expansion too.
>
> I played Dungeon seige which was also a very hack-and-slash type. Not bad.
> Played Sacred which was OK, but too large and too long. Missions had you
> running (or riding) from one side of the continent to the other repeatedly.
> It got old too quick.

Yes, I liked also to play Dungeon Siege and Dungeon Siege II (I remember
especially the ghost quests)...
I've never finished Sacred. I bought "underworld", but I've never played it,
because my "team" suddenly stopped playing and I don't like to play these games
on my own (not, that it would be too frightening for me ^^ ).
I'm always a support character. But it's better to play with me than playing
with "bots", I'm too unsuspectedly chaotic, that makes all games very funny. ^^

> > Normally I'm a typical RPG-gamer. :-D
>
> Also. RPG and Strat.

Me too. :-)

Neverwinter Nights, The Elder Scrolls series, Legacy of Kain series, of course
Final Fantasy series...
C&C, WC3 and which one again is that with some "Eldar", who can hide their
bases?

bluetree


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 13:40:01
Message: <web.4867c86d9e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> > I'd say the same about the hack-and-slash style of RPG. You just have a
> > variety of (mostly) melee weapons instead of a variety of guns and (often,
> > not always) the hack-and-slash is 3rd person, not 1st.
>
> > Believe me, if you try just hacking your way through Diable without
> > thinking, you have a very dead character very quickly.
>
>   The third-person game types which I have liked most are:
>
> 1) The Tomb Raider series: Puzzles, wall-climbing, acrobatics, some
>    shooting (but not too much).
>
> 2) The Desperados series: Tactical puzzle-solving, but without fully going
>    to the RTS category (which I find a bit boring). Gunfights are more of
>    a puzzle-solving element than a real fighting element.
>
> 3) jRPGs: Tales of Eternia and Final Fantasy 8 are prominent examples.
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp


Have you also tried one of the Legacy of Kain series?
These were also great games. It's a pity, that they finished the series.

bluetree


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 13:50:00
Message: <web.4867cb359e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   Anyways, the main element which keeps FPS games interesting is the
> > skill factor.
>
> I think what keeps them interesting for me is the story line. Sure,
> playing the whole thing thru on God mode makes it much less interesting,
> but if it's too hard[1], I don't feel I miss anything by God-ing over
> some areas.

Aren't FPS more interesting, when played online pvp?
I haven't played a lot, so I can't judge that.
(Thinking of UT, I was too often the one, walking there and got shot.) :-)

bluetree


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 14:04:04
Message: <4867ce94@news.povray.org>
bluetree <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Have you also tried one of the Legacy of Kain series?

  Nope. I'll consider them the next time I'm at the online store...

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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 14:35:00
Message: <web.4867d4719e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> bluetree <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > Have you also tried one of the Legacy of Kain series?
>
>   Nope. I'll consider them the next time I'm at the online store...
>
> --
>                                                           - Warp

If you like a good mix of puzzles, 3rd person "hacking" ^^ and good storyline,
you won't regret it. (Especially the parts (Soulreaver I/II) with Raziel have
many puzzles, on the other hand, you get more information of the whole story,
when the game is focussing on Kain (Bloodomen I/II), IMO.)

bluetree


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 14:51:53
Message: <0bmf64diuodtil1dfpe8hioe11i2jformr@4ax.com>
On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:35:50 EDT, "bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16OxcI7AUP4
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0kPGXFIAk&feature=related
>
>Cool. :-D
>Thinking of that, I would immediately stop to smoke, if I would smoke... ^^

Are you sure that you hadn't been smoking ;)

>http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLnO_e2waA from responsibilityproject.com
>
>great
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ&feature=related old but also great,
>part of "Adventures of Mark Twain"

Ooo! Nice but the kids got away :)
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Regards
     Stephen


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 16:00:00
Message: <web.4867e8f09e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:35:50 EDT, "bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16OxcI7AUP4
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0kPGXFIAk&feature=related
> >
> >Cool. :-D
> >Thinking of that, I would immediately stop to smoke, if I would smoke... ^^
>
> Are you sure that you hadn't been smoking ;)


oops, yes... :P

> >http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLnO_e2waA from responsibilityproject.com
> >
> >great
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ&feature=related old but also great,
> >part of "Adventures of Mark Twain"
>
> Ooo! Nice but the kids got away :)
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

But only, because they are not real people, as far as I've understood the whole
movie.

Somehow it's a strange tale about Mark Twain...

but the paradise scenes are also funny. ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuQHmnw1s9Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PSxP7ae1mM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCfcNIt6Pho

and the heaven part:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7vlvq997J4

bluetree


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