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> And lo on Wed, 06 Feb 2008 09:57:38 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
> spake, saying:
>
>>>> Oh, "only" $3,000. Bargin. ;-)
>>> Well, the $3000 covers dual power supplies, hardware raid, dual
>>> giabit ethernet, rack-mount, a year of Linux support from Novel, dual
>>> SATA 500G hard drives, 16G of RAM, four dual-core 2.<mumble> CPUs...
>>> Yeah, not too bad.
>>
>> That's actually quite good.
>>
>> and it doesn't have half that stuff.
>>
>> OTOH, Phil was complaining that you can't buy desktop machines that
>> slot together like lego. And I countered that you *can* buy such
>> equipment, it's just far too expensive to use as a desktop. ;-)
>
> Succinctly put thank you. The whole thing is why hasn't the
> slot-together style reached down into the standard market, and if it did
> how would that affect 'normal' users' computer buying patterns. Instead
> of buying an entire new computer would they instead opt to upgrade the
> old one because it's a piece of cake to do.
>
> I mean seriously I've listened to friends talking about upgrading their
> entire computer to get more speed out of a game or something when all
> they need to do is switch the video card (or *to* a video card rather
> then the MB GPU). To them the computer is a lump like a television,
> opening the case doesn't occur to them and I don't think they'd be
> enthused by what they'd find if they did.
And that's good for us geeks who then find their old computer on their
trash.
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Hmm reminds me of a problem I have on Winduhs with my camera. If I plug
the camera to the computer, it shows in a separate "category" on My PC.
When copying files from the camera into some local folder, Windows
*reads the whole file into RAM*, and then saves it to disk. Hardly
noticeable for 2MB pictures, but once I almost had to reset the computer
due to the huge swapping (500MB .avi, while I had only 512MB physical
RAM and lots of open applications).
Now I have a SD reader, so I just take the SD memory out of the camera,
and copy from there.
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And lo on Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:35:09 -0000, Gail Shaw sa dot com>
<"<initialsurname"@sentech> did spake, saying:
>
> "Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
> news:op.t53yrkgoc3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>> Seriously can you imagine if a non-tech tried
>> to do this, imagine if they had to play match the wires for every USB
>> device they plugged in. Oops silly me all this is detailed in the case
>> manual... now what did I do with that?
>>
> Hehe. Great fun.
Indeed despite the fact that both you and I know what we're doing, it just
shouldn't be this way in an industry that (used to) expect self-upgrading.
> I'm doing a major upgrade of my machine at the end of this month, and I'm
> considering getting it put together for me. I can assemble a computer and
> I've done it a number of times. It just takes so long.
There's that fast-food analogy again :-) Unless it's restaurant-type
quality.
> Also I usually end up
> with more scratches from the case than I get from my cats in a month.
In all fairness, except for that heatsink, the number of scratches and
pinches were inconsequential, but it wasn't a complete rebuilding.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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And lo on Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:54:28 -0000, Nicolas Alvarez
<nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> did spake, saying:
>>
>> I mean seriously I've listened to friends talking about upgrading
>> their entire computer to get more speed out of a game or something when
>> all they need to do is switch the video card (or *to* a video card
>> rather then the MB GPU). To them the computer is a lump like a
>> television, opening the case doesn't occur to them and I don't think
>> they'd be enthused by what they'd find if they did.
>
> And that's good for us geeks who then find their old computer on their
> trash.
Unless you get arrested for theft. Besides computers are covered under
WEEE you can't just dump them in the trash anymore; they have to be
disposed of at the correct centres.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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Phil Cook wrote:
> Unless you get arrested for theft. Besides computers are covered under
> WEEE you can't just dump them in the trash anymore; they have to be
> disposed of at the correct centres.
Oh yes, the EU directive for the prevention of WEEE... :-D
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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And lo on Thu, 07 Feb 2008 10:52:52 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake, saying:
> Phil Cook wrote:
>
>> Unless you get arrested for theft. Besides computers are covered under
>> WEEE you can't just dump them in the trash anymore; they have to be
>> disposed of at the correct centres.
>
> Oh yes, the EU directive for the prevention of WEEE... :-D
To be followed by the EU directive for the prevention of HoTAiR. Always
amusing listening to directions on waste prevention from a parliament that
maintains two headquarters and decamps from one to the other depending on
the type of meeting they're holding.
--
Phil Cook
--
I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
http://flipc.blogspot.com
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 21:35:09 +0200, "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot
com> wrote:
>Also I usually end up
>with more scratches from the case than I get from my cats in a month.
>
The difference between scratches from cats and computer cases is in the
clothing. With computer cases cover up and with cats use bare skin. If a cat
likes you (i.e. you feed it) s/he won't scratch you but if it is digging into
cloth that doesn't count.
Regards
Stephen
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