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Francois Labreque wrote:
> bank book printer
Bank book printer? I haven't seen a bank book in 30+ years.
We *do* have devices to take in checks and cash without an envelope and
count it up. And some ATMs sell postage stamps. So there's a lot of
variability here.
Unless you mean something different from "bankbook" that I'm thinking.
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> Why would they be trivially hackable? They're on a private network with
> end-to-end hardware-keyed encryption, locked in a box that needs two keys
> to open.
And I heard somewhere that if the box (the physical ATM) detects it is being
tampered with it self-destructs any sensitive data automatically (eg the
keys used to calculate your PIN number). And probably releases an ink
cartridge to cover all the notes...
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scott wrote:
> And I heard somewhere that if the box (the physical ATM) detects it is
> being tampered with it self-destructs any sensitive data automatically
Yeah, this is pretty common on high-security information. Even things like
"smart cards" and some sorts of video players do that sort of thing.
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Le 2010-11-04 12:41, Darren New a écrit :
> Francois Labreque wrote:
>> bank book printer
>
> Bank book printer? I haven't seen a bank book in 30+ years.
>
> We *do* have devices to take in checks and cash without an envelope and
> count it up. And some ATMs sell postage stamps. So there's a lot of
> variability here.
>
> Unless you mean something different from "bankbook" that I'm thinking.
>
One of these:
http://www.accessclarkcounty.com/depts/Public_Guardian/PublishingImages/bank_book.jpg
Most people have moved to either monthly statements or even online
statements, but there are a few people who still use them, and most ATMs
still have a printer that will allow customers to update them.
At least, up here in Canuckistan.
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Francois Labreque wrote:
> Most people have moved to either monthly statements or even online
> statements, but there are a few people who still use them, and most ATMs
> still have a printer that will allow customers to update them.
Wow. Yeah, that's what I thought. I haven't seen those since banks went
computerized 30 years ago.
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Le 2010-11-05 12:01, Darren New a écrit :
> Francois Labreque wrote:
>> Most people have moved to either monthly statements or even online
>> statements, but there are a few people who still use them, and most
>> ATMs still have a printer that will allow customers to update them.
>
> Wow. Yeah, that's what I thought. I haven't seen those since banks went
> computerized 30 years ago.
>
I used to be a bank teller while I was a student (early nineties) and
everyone still used those, which we updated on our IBM printers
connected to IBM 327x terminals. What do you mean "since banks went
computerized?"
;-)
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Francois Labreque wrote:
> What do you mean "since banks went computerized?"
Since banks went computerized in the USA?
Are these bankbooks or passbooks? (The difference being that the passbook
is the official record, I think.) I'd more likely believe that bankbooks are
common than passbooks.
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Le 2010-11-08 12:19, Darren New a écrit :
> Francois Labreque wrote:
>> What do you mean "since banks went computerized?"
>
> Since banks went computerized in the USA?
>
> Are these bankbooks or passbooks? (The difference being that the
> passbook is the official record, I think.) I'd more likely believe that
> bankbooks are common than passbooks.
>
I meant the thingie that the customer keeps in his or her desk drawer
and updates when they go to the bank, not the official ledger that was
kept in the bank's vault.
Banks have been computerized in Kanuckistan since the mid seventies,
too, but most users kept using a booklet until the late nineties when a
push was made to switch to mailed monthly statements because nobody
bothered to go to an actual bank teller anymore to get their book
updated. But most ATMs (or at least one per row of ATMs) still have a
printer that can update them as not everyone has switched to monthly
statements).
Banks are now pushing for online statements since it cuts on the mailing
fees and puts the onus on the customer to print them using his or her
own ink and paper.
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Francois Labreque wrote:
> I meant the thingie that the customer keeps in his or her desk drawer
> and updates when they go to the bank, not the official ledger that was
> kept in the bank's vault.
OK. In the USA, there are "bank books" which is what you're talking about,
and "pass books" which are actually AFAIK the official register of how much
money is in your account, which the customer carries around. It's the latter
I haven't seen, but I can see where a bank might still accommodate bank books.
> Banks are now pushing for online statements since it cuts on the mailing
> fees and puts the onus on the customer to print them using his or her
> own ink and paper.
I can understand that. :-)
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On 11/3/2010 3:01 PM, Darren New wrote:
>
> Probably. It's on the xbox too, but I don't know what that runs.
>
Some kind of embedded windows, I guess....
> I wasn't denying your experience. I was simply pointing out it's a known
> problem with a known fix. :-)
>
I know ... I just wasn't aware that the .NET CF was available for
anything but CE.
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