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On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:08:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> I must say, the UI to this set of programs really, really sucks.
I would agree. I never use the GUI for the collection, and when using
the CLI, I always have to refer back to the docs for the program I'm
using. It's kinda a pain.
Jim
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On 2010-08-03 14:16, Warp wrote:
> Even though I'm not a big fan of using smilies (because I feel they are
> akin to explaining the joke), I thought that in this case it would be
obligatory:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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Tim Cook <z99### [at] gmail com> wrote:
> On 2010-08-03 14:16, Warp wrote:
> > Even though I'm not a big fan of using smilies (because I feel they are
> > akin to explaining the joke), I thought that in this case it would be
>
> obligatory:
>
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitle0t9r68ih?from=Main.DontExplainTheJoke
two relevant quotes:
" 6. The joke is German, where a lot of jokes are explained in the end, for
some reason."
zat's for Warp and clipka... LOL
"Wikipedia is currently the world's largest collection of explained jokes."
I don't get it... LOL
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:08:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>
>> I must say, the UI to this set of programs really, really sucks.
>
> I would agree. I never use the GUI for the collection,
I didn't even know there *was* a GUI/
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
C# - a language whose greatest drawback
is that its best implementation comes
from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:
> It's exactly this "we don't want to even discuss the possibility that
> our program isn't perfect, because it's free and you're an ungrateful
> ass for thinking a new user's perspective might be an interesting input
> to the design process" that keeps me from contributing more to open
> source.
Heh Heh. I was just browsing the web site for pyjamas - a Python to
JavaScript compiler. The guy running the project is incredibly
guberdefensive about all the design decisions. Any possible criticism
is responded to with something along the lines of:
"Yes? And where's your bug report? Where's your patch? You want better
support? Pay someone!"
(Even to simple comments like "Output did not work on Opera").
Now if he'd clearly just said that the goal of the software is X, and it
is not suitable for using it for Y, then he wouldn't get half of the
questions/complaints he gets. And when people have legitimate
complaints, if he instead used one of the numerous means of trying to
get volunteers to work on it, rather than demanding that the complainant
works on it, the project would get more love.
To be fair, he does state explicitly that the goal is to serve the
individual developers' needs, and not the users. At least he is honest.
I'm betting he'll come here to respond ;-)
But yeah, even though you misread what Warp was saying, I agree with
you. When a lead developer has that attitude, he/she might as well say:
"Look, if you want to help, understand that you'll be dealing with
jerks. You've got to really *want* to help us!"
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:08:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>>
>>> I must say, the UI to this set of programs really, really sucks.
>>
>> I would agree. I never use the GUI for the collection,
>
> I didn't even know there *was* a GUI/
You're better off not knowing.<G>
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:40:13 -0700, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 10:08:55 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>>>
>>>> I must say, the UI to this set of programs really, really sucks.
>>>
>>> I would agree. I never use the GUI for the collection,
>>
>> I didn't even know there *was* a GUI/
>
> You're better off not knowing.<G>
I agree. When I found it, I thought "why?", and then I tried to use it,
and my thought turned to "What?!?!"
Jim
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Darren New wrote:
> I must say, the UI to this set of programs really, really sucks.
Ah, I think this pretty much sums it up:
The following commands are the two direct image 'composite' methods
available in ImageMagick...
composite {overlay} {background} [-compose {method}] {result}
convert {background} {overlay} [-compose {method}] -composite {result}
They're obviously the same. Except, of course, if the result file already
exists, then you are doing some other operation. And it's yet again a
completely different syntax if you actually want to stack up *three* images.
Well, of course, how intuitive! Move over PHP!
For the record, I still haven't figured out how "-write" is supposed to work.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
C# - a language whose greatest drawback
is that its best implementation comes
from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.
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nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> " 6. The joke is German, where a lot of jokes are explained in the end, for
> some reason."
> zat's for Warp and clipka... LOL
I don't get it. I'm not German.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> When I *do* use the smilies, people get confused anyways.
Actually, thinking on it, I think it's more that you made the exact same
response in all seriousness to the exact same sort of complaint that I've
made before. And lots of other people would make this exact same response to
lots of people making similar complaints. So even with a smiley, it wasn't
obvious that *this* time you were joking.
Sorry I missed it, tho.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
C# - a language whose greatest drawback
is that its best implementation comes
from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.
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