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From: Warp
Subject: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 20 Jul 2010 14:59:54
Message: <4c45f22a@news.povray.org>
With the possible exception of Windows ME, Windows Vista has probably been
the version of Windows which has got the most backlash universally, even in
non-internet media.

  But think about Windows 7. How much backlash has that got? Almost nothing
at all. It feels like people are eager to leave the nightmare that is Vista
behind and move to greener pastures (namely Windows 7) as quickly as possible.
Nobody is complaining about Windows 7.

  My theory: Microsoft planned all this all along. Vista was a deliberate
tactic to make Windows 7 (which is what Microsoft was planning in the first
place) sink better. Everybody's complaints got focused on Vista, and thus
Windows 7 (the "fixed Vista") is selling a lot better. If they had skipped
Vista altogether and published Windows 7 a couple of years later instead,
it would have got a lot more negative backlash, but now it's a success.

  (Disclaimer: Yes, the above is *humorous* text.)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 20 Jul 2010 17:43:27
Message: <4c46187f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   (Disclaimer: Yes, the above is *humorous* text.)

On the other hand, I wouldn't put it past them either. :-)

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Slime
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 20 Jul 2010 23:56:42
Message: <4c466ffa$1@news.povray.org>
> If they had skipped
 > Vista altogether and published Windows 7 a couple of years later instead,
 > it would have got a lot more negative backlash, but now it's a success.

I know you were joking, but I believe that sentence is true. A lot of 
the negative backlash from Vista was simply due to it being different, 
not worse. Vista got people used to the changes that were good, so when 
they saw them in Windows 7, they didn't mind the change anymore.

  - Slime


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 21 Jul 2010 03:50:37
Message: <4c46a6cd$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   My theory: Microsoft planned all this all along. Vista was a deliberate
> tactic to make Windows 7 sink better.

But your highness, she's a commoner, her slurm will taste foul!

Yes. And then we'll release Slurm Classic. We'll be rich. RICH!!


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 21 Jul 2010 09:45:00
Message: <web.4c46f8d7713e694459ae87430@news.povray.org>
All very true, no need for using humor as a shield.

on a side note, I just bought a cheap Acer Aspire notebook to bring on my
vacation trip.  I intended to give Microsoft a chance this time around, but W7
Starter Edition is limited in such annoying small ways... while featurewise it's
got pretty much everything in place and I don't bother not having Aero glass
interface on limited hardware, it's the small senseless limitations that really
kill it:  not being able to change the wallpaper, not being able to copy image
URLs in ie (this at least you can do by viewing the page source or, hopefully,
installing another browser) and a few others I'm not sure are limitations of W7S
or Windows in general, like not being able to activate ie's Content Supervisor
per user (like my daughter)... it's set for everyone!

in the end, I feel I just need Ubuntu here...  W7S feels more like Windows
Shareware Edition... but strangely enough, the so-touted 3-apps limitation did
not show up so far...


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 21 Jul 2010 10:40:13
Message: <4c4706cd$1@news.povray.org>
Slime wrote:
> the negative backlash from Vista was simply due to it being different, 
> not worse. 

I think a lot of it was due to Vista being ready before the hardware was, so 
a lot of people bought Vista on "Vista-ready" hardware that wasn't. I.e., it 
was to a large extent a marketing rather than technical failure.  And of 
course it was pre-SP1, which always sucks.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Aydan
Subject: Re: Now I understand the reason for Vista
Date: 21 Jul 2010 11:50:00
Message: <web.4c47166b713e69443771cd8e0@news.povray.org>
I went more or less from W2k (used until late 2008) to XP to W7 (January 2010)
and I have to say that I was positively surprised about it.
OK, a few things are hidden quite well and take some getting used to.
I never even touched Vista and only heard the rumours around me.
When I checked out W7RC on my trusty old Athlon 3000+ with 2GB RAM and a ATI
Radeon 2400HD AGP graphics card it ran quire well even with all the graphical
gimmicks enabled. I have to say I was quite impressed.

So I have to say Microsoft did quite well with W7.

Regards
Aydan


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