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On 16/07/2010 9:45 PM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> >> I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
>>> >> university in the US
>> >
>> > Generally speaking, it's whether you have multiple campuses, or just
>> > one. At least, that's what it was when I went to college.
>> >
>> > It has nothing to do with what they teach or how long you attend or
>> > anything like that. Just, basically, size.
> That sounds right to me as well - though it isn't even "size" so much; I
> went to Embry-Riddle, and as schools go it's fairly small, but they have
> multiple campuses, so it's classified as a university.
>
In the UK, universities award their own degrees and require (I think) a
royal charter. Colleges can award degrees from another institution.
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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>> Interestingly, my understanding is that "school uniforms" are usually *not*
>> paid for by the government, and the point of the uniforms is to avoid
>> distinguishing wealthy from poor. If everyone buys the same clothes, there's
>> no way to have a status symbol your parents bought for you in that way.
>
> Wouldn't it thus make sense for the government to provide the uniforms?
> (Because, after all, not all parents might be able to afford them.)
Here's the fun part:
Some schools say "you must wear a blue shirt and black trousers", and
you go buy that from wherever. Other schools sell their own uniform
(usually with the school name embroidered on it). And they can basically
charge... whatever they like for it. It's a nice little source of income
for the school. (Schools are always whining about having insufficient
funds.)
uniform in order to do so". Nice...
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>> I recall at uni there were certain books that they said you should buy.
>>
>> Or you could just get them out of the uni library for nothing. Well,
>> duh.
>
> Yeah, unless it's a classroom textbook - the library isn't likely to keep
> 100+ copies of it on the shelves....
Maybe it's just the uni I went to. The largest class in the entire uni
was, like, 70 people or something.
I remember when we did object-oriented analysis and design, we were all
ordered to go buy the UML book. I thought "hey, I'll just get it from
the library". I found the shelf... and it was bare.
Two weeks later, I tried to get the book, and there was at least 30
copies. But then, as I quickly discovered, the book was useless anyway! ;-)
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Here's the fun part:
> Some schools say "you must wear a blue shirt and black trousers", and
> you go buy that from wherever. Other schools sell their own uniform
> (usually with the school name embroidered on it). And they can basically
> charge... whatever they like for it. It's a nice little source of income
> for the school. (Schools are always whining about having insufficient
> funds.)
> uniform in order to do so". Nice...
A naive person would think that this is exactly what taxes are for.
(And, in fact, in many countries this *is* something which is paid from
tax money.)
It would be an example of a *good* use of tax money, as it helps evening
out the difference between rich and poor (while still not being outright
communism).
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- Warp
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I remember when we did object-oriented analysis and design, we were all
> ordered to go buy the UML book.
At least here books are *recommended*, not mandatory. If you can pass the
course without the book, then that's fine. It's just a recommendation of what
to buy if you want additional material to help you learn the things taught.
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I remember when we did object-oriented analysis and design, we were all
>> ordered to go buy the UML book.
>
> At least here books are *recommended*, not mandatory. If you can pass the
> course without the book, then that's fine. It's just a recommendation of what
> to buy if you want additional material to help you learn the things taught.
Yeah, that would make more sense. At my uni we were given the impression
"if you don't have this book, you'll fail".
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Darren New wrote:
> Here, there's "pre-school" which is < 5 YO.
> Kindergarden is for when you're 5 YO.
> Grade school is the next 12 years (grade 1 thru 12).
> "Elementary school" is grades 1 thru 6,
> with "junior high school" being grades 7 thru 9 and
> "high school" being grades 10 thru 12.
>
> Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a
> college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University of
> California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley", etc.
>
> "Associate college" is a 2-year degree program.
>
> "College" is four years.
>
> "Graduate school" is after you graduate from college, to get a masters
> or PhD or MD or whatever.
That's really quite a lot to take in... o_O
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:4c40b4a7@news.povray.org...
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a
> > college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University of
> > California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley", etc.
>
> I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
> university in the US
Colleges don't typically offer graduate programs, and research may be
minimal / non-existant. The programs might be limited as well, say, strictly
art with no scientific/technical schools or strictly a technical institute
with no art/science schools. The term also may cover 2 year post secondary
institutions that may not offer a full/accredited degree.
Universities of course offer full undergraduate and graduate degree
programs.
That said, some colleges which eventually become universities may maintain
the term "college" in their title. And to further confuse matters, some
refer to universities as colleges (but almost never the other way around).
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somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> Colleges don't typically offer graduate programs, and research may be
> minimal / non-existant. The programs might be limited as well, say, strictly
> art with no scientific/technical schools or strictly a technical institute
> with no art/science schools. The term also may cover 2 year post secondary
> institutions that may not offer a full/accredited degree.
> Universities of course offer full undergraduate and graduate degree
> programs.
If you go to a (pure) college and get an undergraduate degree, and then
go to an actual university to get a graduate degree, do they directly accept
your undergraduate studies in the university so that you don't have to do
it all over again?
--
- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> If you go to a (pure) college and get an undergraduate degree, and then
> go to an actual university to get a graduate degree, do they directly accept
> your undergraduate studies in the university so that you don't have to do
> it all over again?
Yes, pretty much. As long as the schools involved are "accredited" (which
means they teach stuff according to government standards) it transfers over.
There maybe be an occasional special case where one particular school's
physics class or something isn't up to par, but yah, generally everyone gets
along.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
C# - a language whose greatest drawback
is that its best implementation comes
from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.
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