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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 15:38:20
Message: <4c40b52c@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> "bangs" are the girl equivalent of long sideburns.
> > 
> >   Does the expression "more bang for your buck" have anything to do with it?

> I'm assuming you're being serious here, but if not, good job! :-)

  It was a joke. I don't like to emphasize jokes with smilies. It feels like
explaining the joke...

> I think the "bang for your buck" means the power of the firearm vs the price 
> in dollars.

   I thought it meant "you get something more useful/valuable (or sometimes
just "more") for the same amount of money" (usually when comparing prices of
different manufacturers).

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 16:14:10
Message: <4c40bd92@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a 
>> college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University of 
>> California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley", etc.
> 
>   I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
> university in the US 

Generally speaking, it's whether you have multiple campuses, or just one. At 
least, that's what it was when I went to college.

It has nothing to do with what they teach or how long you attend or anything 
like that. Just, basically, size.

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 16:15:40
Message: <4c40bdec$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>> "bangs" are the girl equivalent of long sideburns.
>>>   Does the expression "more bang for your buck" have anything to do with it?
> 
>> I'm assuming you're being serious here, but if not, good job! :-)
> 
>   It was a joke. I don't like to emphasize jokes with smilies. It feels like
> explaining the joke...

I couldn't tell, because that's exactly the sort of excellent pun-type 
inferences I've come to expect from smart people who aren't native speakers. :-)

>> I think the "bang for your buck" means the power of the firearm vs the price 
>> in dollars.
> 
>    I thought it meant "you get something more useful/valuable (or sometimes
> just "more") for the same amount of money" (usually when comparing prices of
> different manufacturers).

Yes, basically. But the origin is in firearms.  For example, you wouldn't 
want literally more bang in your purchase of tires.

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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 16:36:43
Message: <4c40c2db@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a 
> >> college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University of 
> >> California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley", etc.
> > 
> >   I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
> > university in the US 

> Generally speaking, it's whether you have multiple campuses, or just one. At 
> least, that's what it was when I went to college.

> It has nothing to do with what they teach or how long you attend or anything 
> like that. Just, basically, size.

  What would be the problem in calling all of them universities, if they
teach the same things and you get the same academic degrees?

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 16:41:56
Message: <4c40c414@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > Warp wrote:
> > > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > >> Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a 
> > >> college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University of 
> > >> California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley", etc.
> > > 
> > >   I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
> > > university in the US 

> > Generally speaking, it's whether you have multiple campuses, or just one. At 
> > least, that's what it was when I went to college.

> > It has nothing to do with what they teach or how long you attend or anything 
> > like that. Just, basically, size.

>   What would be the problem in calling all of them universities, if they
> teach the same things and you get the same academic degrees?

  Btw, it seems (according to wikipedia) that there are actually two
definitions of "college": The official definition and the informal,
colloquial definition. As wikipedia puts it:

"In popular usage, the word "college" is the generic term for any
post-secondary undergraduate education. Americans go to "college"
after high school, regardless of whether the specific institution is
formally a college or a university, and the word and its derivatives
are the standard terms used to describe the institutions and
experiences associated with American post-secondary undergraduate
education."

  The official definition seems to be more complex.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 16:45:51
Message: <4c40c4ff$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:14:07 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> Then there's college, often at a university. A "university" here is a
>>> college with campuses in more than one city. So you have "University
>>> of California San Diego" and "University of California in Berkeley",
>>> etc.
>> 
>>   I have never really understood the difference between a college and a
>> university in the US
> 
> Generally speaking, it's whether you have multiple campuses, or just
> one. At least, that's what it was when I went to college.
> 
> It has nothing to do with what they teach or how long you attend or
> anything like that. Just, basically, size.

That sounds right to me as well - though it isn't even "size" so much; I 
went to Embry-Riddle, and as schools go it's fairly small, but they have 
multiple campuses, so it's classified as a university.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 19:32:03
Message: <4c40ebf3$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> multiple campuses, so it's classified as a university.

The only reason I know this is I went to West Chester State College for 
undergraduate, that turned into West Chester University when I was half-way 
through.  It was a source of great mirth.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 19:32:06
Message: <4c40ebf6$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   What would be the problem in calling all of them universities, if they
> teach the same things and you get the same academic degrees?

You're asking me why Americans don't have a logical language?

 > "In popular usage, the word "college" is the generic term

Yes.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    C# - a language whose greatest drawback
    is that its best implementation comes
    from a company that doesn't hate Microsoft.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 16 Jul 2010 19:54:51
Message: <4c40f14b$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 16:32:00 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> multiple campuses, so it's classified as a university.
> 
> The only reason I know this is I went to West Chester State College for
> undergraduate, that turned into West Chester University when I was
> half-way through.  It was a source of great mirth.

That also probably explains the university that's in Waynesburg, PA - 
which is a source of much amusement for my wife (who's from there). :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Things you can't Google
Date: 17 Jul 2010 04:57:51
Message: <4c41708f@news.povray.org>
On 16/07/2010 4:59 PM, Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Invisible<voi### [at] devnull>  wrote:
>>> In US schools, the books go home with students, and at university, the
>>> student purchases/owns the books.
>>
>> Really? Heh, I never knew that. Any specific reason?
>
> You make it sound outlandish. This was exactly my experience at my UK school,
> and university. We had the use of lockers at school, but as you say, homework
> etc...
>
>
You English had it soft, :-P lockers indeed. We had to take all our 
school books home and bring the correct ones in daily. Our memories were 
encouraged by the use of the tawse http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawse

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	Stephen


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